What was Montag and Faber's plan in Fahrenheit 451? Did they plan to kill Beatty or hide books in firemen’s homes?

The plan that Faber and Montag have is to plant books in the homes of firemen so that the firemen will get arrested and there will be no one to enforce the anti-book laws.  Montag says he wants to have "...the salamander devour its own tail,", or bring the society down from the inside.  Montag has a few books of his own, but they know those aren't enough and Faber doesn't keep books around either.  They decide that Montag should go home and get some money, give that money to Faber, and Faber will then give the money to a man he knows who owns a printing press.  They will have books printed that they can then plant in the homes of firemen.  The plan is not enacted because Montag is arrested when the fire run is to his house.  That's when Montag, in a fit of anger and passion, turns the flame thrower on Beatty.  He never planned to kill Beatty, it was a sudden decision.  Faber tells Montag how to get in touch with the book people only when Montag is on the run as a fugitive after he killed Beatty.

What plan do Montag and Faber devise in Fahrenheit 451?

Faber and Montag’s plan is to hide books in firemen’s houses to implicate them all over the country and arouse suspicion.

When Montag first meets Faber, he is intrigued by the old man.  Faber used to be an English professor before the last college closed down due to lack of students.  At first, he is suspicious of Montag.  Montag tries to ask him how many copies of various books are left, and he tells him none.  Montag tracks him down, and they have a real conversation when Montag convinces the man that he is genuine.  Then Montag shares his plan.  He wants to print extra copies of books.  Faber scoffs at him.  He has his own plan.

Now if you suggest that we print extra books and arrange to have them hidden in firemen's houses all over the country, so that seeds of suspicion would be sown among these arsonists, bravo, I'd say!" (Part 2)

When Faber first suggests the plan, he isn’t serious.  Montag is, however.  He has a list of firemen’s houses, and no love lost for the fire department.  He has lost faith in his community, and his entire worldview has been shaken.  He feels a desperate need to take action.  He tells Faber he has nothing to lose.

Faber gives Montag a small earpiece like a Seashell Radio to wear in his ear, so he can communicate with him.  Then Montag goes back, but he points out that he won't blindly follow Faber. 

"I don't want to change sides and just be told what to do. There's no reason to change if I do that." (Part 2)

Faber tells him he is wise already. He couldn't agree with Montag more!

As with most complicated plans, this one falls apart.  Montag ends up killing his boss, Fire Captain Beatty, and going on the run spectacularly from the mechanical hound, when his wife calls the fire department on him.  Meanwhile, the entire civilization seems to self-destruct around them.  Montag runs away to Faber and a group of other like-minded book lovers who pretty much just sit back and wait for the rest of them to destroy each other so they can pick up the pieces.

Bradbury’s message is hardly subtle, but it is still meaningful.  Books carry more than just our words—they carry our heritage.  They are our soul.  A soulless society like the one Montag lived in will implode, and is not worth living in anyway.

In Fahrenheit 451, why does Faber believe more than saving books is needed to change society?

As both Faber and Beatty note, in the world before books were banned and burned, people, on the whole, weren't reading the books they had free and legal access to. Therefore, as Faber notes, it is not the books themselves that should be fetishized: having books on a shelf is pointless if nobody cracks them open to find out what they say inside.

Faber proposes rebuilding the society from the ground up so that people are taught to value the ideas and information in books. It is what books have to say, not the books themselves, that matters in the end.

That's why it is important, at the end of the novel, to find out that people who care about knowledge have memorized books. It is through internalizing the wisdom in great books and debating it freely that society grows.

Bradbury envisions a good society as one full of people like Clarisse and the rest of her family. They are individuals who ask "why" questions, turn off their television sets in favor of real conversation, and take walks outside so they can interact with nature. Curiosity about ideas, other people, and the natural world needs to be rekindled before books themselves can have any value.

In Fahrenheit 451, why does Faber believe more than saving books is needed to change society?

For Faber, the only way to change society is to change its culture, as he comments to Montag:

The whole culture's shot through. The skeleton needs melting and re-shaping.

In his view, it was not the firemen who caused censorship; it was the people. As he says, "the public itself chose to stop reading"; they wanted entertainment and happiness, not books. This view is based on his own experience as a professor when, one year, he found only one student had signed up for his course, "Drama from Aeschylus to O'Neill."

According to Faber, society can only change if the following three things are restored: firstly, that people are given access to a wide variety of information; secondly, that they are given adequate time to digest it; and thirdly, that they have the right to "carry out actions" based on these first two points.

So, in Faber's view, changing society involves more than destroying the firemen system. It is about giving people access to a wide spectrum of information, the sort only found in books, and allowing these people to think for themselves. 

In Fahrenheit 451, how do Montag and Faber plan to save their society?

After Montag kills Captain Beatty and becomes a fugitive, he creates a distraction and meets up with Faber one last time before fleeing the dystopian city. At Faber's home, the ex-professor gives Montag directions to find the river and meet up with a group of hobo intellectuals who travel up and down the railroads preserving knowledge. Faber then informs Montag that he plans on leaving for St. Louis, where he will meet up with a retired printer and make copies of books to secretly distribute throughout society. By printing copies of censored books and distributing them, Faber hopes to preserve the knowledge of the past and contribute to the underground literary world, which will someday positively influence the corrupt mainstream culture.

Montag ends up joining a group of traveling intellectuals, who teach him how to remember complete works of literature. An atomic bomb is dropped on the dystopian city, and Montag is in the process of remembering the books of Ecclesiastes and Revelation as he walks towards the destroyed city with hopes of rebuilding a literate society. Montag plans on copying the books in his head onto paper and contributing to a literate society in the wake of the atomic attack.

In Fahrenheit 451, how do Montag and Faber plan to save their society?

Montag, the main character, has abandoned his life as a book burner.  He is reborn at the end of the book into an individual who wants to live a meaningful life and make a difference in the world, a positive difference.  As he looks at the burned out city, he realizes that he wants to dedicate himself to rebuilding a society that values books and help start a new culture, a society where free thought is encouraged.

Faber, a retired teacher, is inspired by Montag's determination to learn about and from books.  Montag's spirit fills Faber with a sense of renewed purpose. He will now live according to his beliefs and not hide, but protest the oppressive society and seeks its change. 

In Fahrenheit 451, how do Montag and Faber plan to save their society?

They will save and/or restore their society through a number of steps. First, Faber guides and inspires Montag. Montag then turns to him when he runs. Faber embodies many of the virtues of a literate society. They then join the society of those committed to books. Montag begins to take part in their salvation process, which is to memorize books. Then, after the war, they will return to society and share them with people, so books won't ever be destroyed, even if they are all burned.

In Fahrenheit 451, how do Montag and Faber plan to save their society?

Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury describes an imaginary era where books are considered dangerous for the society. People don’t believe in reading books at all and pass their time watching useless television shows. Montag is one of the firemen who burn houses where people still keep books. Montag feels fine about his work for almost ten years, but in the company of a neighbor Clarisse, he begins to think very differently and even retreats from his job. He also tries to seek various questions regarding the historical origins of the practice of book burning. He secretly reads books and becomes a part of a group of clandestine book readers. He realises that absence of reading books is just creating a mindless, illiterate and powerless society, where people are not capable of free, rational thinking. He also understands that only books that can save the society from wars and destruction. This is when he feels uncomfortable about the way his society is functioning. He meets an English professor Faber, who enlightens him with his views on literature and books. They share the goal of salvaging the illiterate society consumed with senseless and useless entertainment. Montag goes to Faber’s house to get some help in printing books. There, they make a quick plan to bring awareness amongst the people and save the society. According to the plan, they will keep books in the houses of firemen and call the alarm. When people will discover books in the homes of the book burners, they will suspect their intentions and lose faith in the so-called protectors of the society. Faber, however, feels they should wait for the war to happen that will solve some of their problems. He gives Montag a radio device to remain connected with him.

In Fahrenheit 451, what does Faber say will bring the world back to books?

Faber notes that society itself has so far removed itself from the emotions of literature that people can no longer comprehend the depths of anger, despair, and rage authors once captured. He reminds Montag, "Remember, firemen are rarely necessary. The public itself stopped reading of its own accord." While it is easy to blame the government and firemen for destroying access to literature, Faber remembers that when the original mandate to burn books was given, he didn't do much more than grumble a bit because "there were no others grunting or yelling with me, by then." Faber tells him that actors have stopped portraying Shakespeare and Shaw because they portray an awareness of the world that makes people uncomfortable. No one wants to listen to the rage of historians because life is too happy and convenient without the bother of the past.

So bringing the world back to books means that people will have to sacrifice some of the comfort they have grown so accustomed to. They have to be willing to acknowledge the pain of the past and the present. In short, they have to be willing to give up the "fun" they experience in their vapid, thoughtless lives.

In Fahrenheit 451, what does Faber say will bring the world back to books?

Faber notes that it is what is in books, not the books themselves necessarily, that has real meaning. But he does offer three conditions that books might be used effectively again. First, he notes that people must cease hating and fearing books. Faber says that books are feared because they have pores, texture, and detail. In other words, books are loaded with information and things that do not conform to the bland, unchallenged society that Faber and Montag currently live in. Therefore, for people to embrace books once again, they must be willing to be challenged by books that touch "real" reality and engage readers in deep thought: practices that do not occur in Montag's social world (sans with people like Faber and Clarisse.) The second thing necessary for books to be relevant is the leisure time to read and contemplate them. This leisure activity would have to take the place of the parlour shows: essentially trading a passive leisure practice for an active one (reading). The third condition Faber mentions is the right/ability to do things based on what is learned in reading: 

And number three: the right to carry out actions based on what we learn from the inter-action of the first two. 

Therefore, people would only come back to books if they are willing to be challenged and engaged in deeper thinking, if they are willing to take the time to read, and finally, if they are willing and allowed (by law or in revolt) to put into practice what they learn from reading. 

As it stands when Faber and Montag have this conversation, their society prohibits these three conditions. The solution to achieve these three conditions is to change society and/or rebel or leave. 

How much money did Montag give Faber near the end of Fahrenheit 451?

After Montag goes to Faber's house when he is on the run, they visit for a bit, and formulate an escape plan for Montag.  Montag's entire house has just been torched, his wife has essentially betrayed him, and he has nothing left in the world.  Given that, he still takes a bit of money that he had on him, and gives it to Faber. The text states that "Montag drew out a hundred dollars" to give to him, saying, "I might be dead by noon; use this."  Montag, at this point, was thinking he was a dead man.  The hound was chasing him, he was being taped on television, and the troops were out.  So, really, what good does money do to a dead man?  He gives it to Faber to help Faber in his journey out of town.

I hope that helped; good luck!

How did Montag persuade Faber to help him in Fahrenheit 451?

As an intellectual outcast from society, Faber is primarily a thinker, not a doer. He's deeply pessimistic about the prospects of overthrowing the regime. This fits in with his generally grim view of human nature; he doesn't think much of the revolutionary potential of the masses who've effectively been tranquilized by the state. Faber sees the value of Montag's plan to destroy the regime from within by hiding books in firemen's homes, thus sowing distrust among those charged with implementing the state's book-burning policy. But he's not prepared to go along because the plan, though ingenious, is too dangerous and he's simply unwilling to risk his own neck.

Montag persuades Faber to go along with his plan by tearing pages out of a Bible, a particularly rare and precious book in this society. He knows that this will get Faber's attention, as he won't want Montag to destroy the whole book. Faber gets the message, and reluctantly agrees to help Montag, giving him a two-way communication device called a green bullet which will allow them to stay in touch at a distance.

What lengths did Montag and Faber go to for change in Fahrenheit 451?

Montag and Faber were willing to risk their lives to enact change in the novel Fahrenheit 451. Montag sacrificed his job, his wife, and his sense of security when he decided to steal books and search for meaning in his life. The instant he killed Captain Beatty, he became an enemy of the state and a wanted fugitive. He risked his life fleeing from the Mechanical Hound and the police during his escape. In addition to being tried for possession of illegal books and murder, Montag would have been guilty of conspiracy for planting books in a firemen's house if he were caught. Fortunately, Montag escaped the city alive and was able to find meaning by joining a group of former professors and intellectuals.

Similar to Montag, Faber risks his life and freedom by aiding Montag in his search for meaning. Faber possessed a copy of the Bible and was aware that Montag was conspiring against the state. He also helps Montag escape by giving him his old clothes and directions to safety. Faber travels to St. Louis to meet with an old friend who owns a printing press. He plans on making copies of books which is highly illegal in Bradbury's dystopian society. Both men become enemies of the state and leave their old lives behind to enact change in society.

What is the initial plan that Faber and Montag devise in Fahrenheit 451?

When Montag initially visits Faber's home, he suggests that they get a printing press and begin making copies of illegal books to distribute throughout society. Faber immediately tells Montag that he would not be interested in the plan and suggests that he might participate in a plan that would destroy the fireman structure from the inside. Faber then suggests that they could possibly make copies of books and plant the illegal novels inside firemen's homes, which would sow seeds of suspicion throughout the organization. After describing his plan, Faber immediately retracts his statement and mentions that his plan would be far from a guarantee. Before Faber can dismiss Montag, Montag grabs his attention by ripping pages out of the Bible. Faber then agrees to help Montag and gives him a two-way communication device known as the green bullet.

In Fahrenheit 451, what plan did Montag and Faber devise?

Montag shows up at Faber's house after suffering a mini nervous breakdown after he realizes that he is completely unhappy and lives in a pretty messed-up society.  Faber helps him to understand exactly what he has been missing out on, and envigorated with the knowledge, Montag suggests that they try to fight back somehow.  He suggests that they start reprinting books again.  Faber says that woudn't work, because the fireman structure would never allow it; they would get caught and burnt themselves.  He says he would consider it if they could somehow get rid of the fireman system; a way to do that would be to

"arrange to have books hidden in firemen's houses all over the country, so that the seeds of suspicion would be sown among these arsonists."

Montag picks up on that immediately; he knows the firemen, and Faber knows old professors who could print books.  So, that is the plan that they start with--to plant books in firemen's houses, and call them in to be burnt.  They don't know the details, and are pretty scared about it all, but it is a start.  For the first time in years, they feel happy and motivated.

I hope that helps; good luck!

What plan does Montag suggest in Fahrenheit 451 that Faber initially rejects?

The plan that Montag puts forth at first is for them to start printing books and secretly distributing them to the masses.  Faber dismisses this immediately; he has been around a bit longer than Montag, and has been on the other side of the fire hose.  He knows that if they started doing that, they would certainly be caught by the firemen and toasted themselves.  So, because of their sure certainty at being caught by the firement, Faber says the only way it would work is if

"somehow the firemen structure itself could be burnt.  Now, if you suggest that we print extra books and arrange to have them hidden in firemen's houses all over the country, so that the seeds of suspicion would be sown among these arsonists, bravo, I'd say!"

Faber says this in a joking manner, rather flippantly, not ever considering that Montag would leap on it and really insist they do it.  But Montag is in the first throws of angst and frustration over realizing his entire life has been meaningless; he's itching for change, he's craving action.  So, Montag does jump on it, and says that since he's a firemen, who better to know the names and addresses of the others?  So, whether Faber was serious or not, they end up going with that plan.   I hope that helped; good luck!