Same Sex Marriage In The Philippines Pros And Cons

What are some pros and cons of same sex marriage?

How do you feel about gay marriage? How do you think gay couples can benefit or not benefit from being in a same sex marriage?

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I agree with ask996's reply, as I understand it. To answer the posted question, responses really should focus at least a little on the pragmatic aspects of the problem, not (at the risk of offending, I'll write it!) simply serve up some outdated philosophies and quote passages from religious texts.

As I see it, one big "pro" of gay marriage is that, as ask996 seems to imply, gay marriage would lead to a more equitable extension of some basic rights and privileges (including, but not at all limited to financial and health matters, such as inheritance, partner benefits, and hospital visitation rights).

And, again as I see, one big "con" is that many people would be offended by gay marriage because their long-held views would be challenged. Many people (including several people posting here) seem less offended, for example, if the term "civil union" is used in place of "marriage." That difference in terminology may suggest to them a continued difference in the status or value or meaning of the two types of relationships, straight and gay.

To me, the whole debate surrounding the term "gay marriage" shows the current limits of acceptance among many people. Many of us seem to be stuck in a single track of thought and to be adhering to that deeply flawed and unconstitutional concept of "separate but equal."

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What it comes down to is legalization and rights. Obviously heterosexual marriage partners are guaranteed rights. People in cohabitating relationships--including gay and lesbian partners have less guaranteed rights. Let’s leave it at that because we all probably know gay and lesbian relationships that are more loving and healthy than some heterosexual relationships.

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I do not have a problem with gay/lesbian people/marriages, and think that they should have the same right to marry if they want to. But a problem I do have is that by passing PORP 8 it is breaking the first amendment. To be more specific it is breaking the right to express yourself. I don't see what the problem is with gay marriage it is the same thing as regular marriage except they are the same sex. It's not like their aliens, but that is how people are acting so rudely to homosexual's. Heterosexuals and Homosexual's do the same exact things like love each other, kiss, hug, cook, hold hands, live together, ect.    

  I don't think the First Amendmend guarantees "the right to express yourself."  It protects free speech, and it has been applied to almost anything including campaign funding.  For example, can I express myself by painting graffiti on your car/house?    There may be arguments that support gay or lesbian marriage, and although I much prefer civil unions; I don't think that this one is correct.

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I have no problem with gay/lesbian relationships, whether they are more or less stable than "traditional" relationships.  I do have a problem with calling them marriages ... "civil unions" should get them the rights they want ... but I think it's more about equalizing the relationships than granting rights.  Some words should probably have a constant meaning (although I do know that language is fluid etc. etc.).  Language is something that we need to take seriously since it's our interface with "reality."  I would suggest a reading of Orwell's "Politics and the English Language"  http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit if you are interested in this topic.

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I have no problem with gay marriage and think all of these couples should have the right to marry if they so choose.  To be quite honest, I have a few gay and lesbian friends whose relationships are much more solid than the heterosexual relationships that other friends of mine have.  I also think gay and lesbian couples should be able to have the same rights that heterosexual couples are afforded once married.

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Another pro is that many states recognize "common law marriage" so that even though the spouses may be of the same gender, it is possible to keep the house, etc. when one partner dies without legal proof of marriage.

Con: aside from social stigma, the Bible states that homosexuality is a sin.  While the Bible doesn’t address the concept of gay or same sex marriage, the Bible does clearly and consistently tell us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of his or her own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving in to their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for them to give into those desires? Of course not. The same is true for homosexuality.

We also have to remember that homosexuality is just as forgivable a sin as all other sins. God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, liar, proud man, etc. God’s love and desire to save extends to homosexuals (John 3:16; Romans 5:8). God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

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 You may wish to re-categorize this question -- it seems more appropriate for the political science group or something similar. But since you asked,

Pros: Marriage of any gender encourages and promotes stability, accountability, and monogamy. By remaining with a single partner, the likelihood of disease transmission is minimal, and such behavior may prevent STDs of epidemic proportions.

Cons: In states where same-sex marriage has been legalized, statistics show that a majority of the contracts fail within a short time period (six months to a year). Same sex marriage encourages the failure of the marital establishment. The same, however, could be said of interracial marriages, which statistics reveal to be highly unsuccessful. Moreover, by encouraging same-sex partnerships, society is lending itself toward the Greco-Roman mentality: both empires fell when their governments began allowing mass sodomy, public homosexuality, and other socially deviant behaviors, and anarchy and financial ruin followed shortly thereafter.    

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