Truth and reconciliation Commission accounts disclose genocide practiced by oppressors and the oppressed who were unjustly absolved of the heinous by Amnesty in South AfricaI have claimed that...

Truth and reconciliation Commission accounts disclose genocide practiced by oppressors and the oppressed who were unjustly absolved of the heinous by Amnesty in South Africa

I have claimed that Nurenberg RSA was meant to have happened in RSA by now:the grave levels of violations of the sanctity of life continue; the extent of grave violations of life evident in abortions considered lesser actions ;political pursuits deprive earnest considerations and practices as it coerces a violent and dishonourable course and genocide continues to be written as in the past as developing nation, developing state.Amnesty and its inherent absolving of culpable onus for perpetrations and atrocities committed by both the oppressors and oppressed continues to provide politics with opportunities to manipulate rightful law at grave risk to humanity.The scourge of violence continues to redefine itself by sociable compromise and palliatable representation serving as definitions of practice.

The Lord bless you .Jennifer

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Genocide is the most extreme of human rights violations. Apartheid is an unquestioned evil, but it is not the same as genocide, and genocide is not its inevitable conclusion.

Both are certainly destructive, and there is no doubt that apartheid was supported by violence, but the effort to exterminate a group of people and the effort to keep a people in subjugation, while both despicable, are not moral equivalents, in my opinion.

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Genocide is the systematic elimination of a people based on race or religion.  Apartheid involved the systematic discrimination of people based on race.  I agree that they are not really comparable.  Apartheid is inexcusable, but genocide is still far worse.

 

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I think that it is difficult to characterize Apartheid as genocide.  It was an immoral and insidious regime, but it is not the same as genocide.  It is easy for me to say from my point of view outside of South Africa, but the truth and reconciliation commission was necessary.  If there was an attempt to prosecute everyone who participated in Apartheid, the country would have been torn apart.

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jenniferjcthompson | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Valedictorian

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Genocide is the most extreme of human rights violations. Apartheid is an unquestioned evil, but it is not the same as genocide, and genocide is not its inevitable conclusion.

Both are certainly destructive, and there is no doubt that apartheid was supported by violence, but the effort to exterminate a group of people and the effort to keep a people in subjugation, while both despicable, are not moral equivalents, in my opinion.

Your concerns are noted and not unwarrented rrteacher,thank you.Considering the South African context though prior to the invent of the New Dispensation expectations were that the threat of a  revolution existed.It was certainly not an unreasonable expectation given the political maturity of the South African context throughout its history.It has also been evident that many political pursuits have had a relational aspect of coercion and violence proportionate to its cause, expectations or intentions as its preferred modus operandi.It is disconcerting and unfortunate that the democracy has been under threat for more than a decade now.'Apartheid' as a past political practice understood today in retrospect implies a multiplicity of groups with unidentified identities and unknown character or practices except that..........The offenders and their offensive practices do not expect to be obstructed, curtailed or punished.Revisions to the Constitution RSA are an imperative now or it would continue to subvert itself and serve the limitations of law to the benefit of those who continue to subvert and defy justice and law.As a matter of interest I inform the posting with pertinent reports and accounts.The Lord bless you.Jennifer

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Genocide is the systematic elimination of a people based on race or religion.  Apartheid involved the systematic discrimination of people based on race.  I agree that they are not really comparable.  Apartheid is inexcusable, but genocide is still far worse.

 

Thank you as well litteacher8 for your response.I might add to my latter response my perceptions that the practices that ensured that genetic manipulation would determine elements of personality as 'unwritten and undisclosed practices of cloning during apartheid were as grave as the practices which demanded multitude numbers that were the initial invent of the dissolution of  apartheid but have subsequently become a people dying impoverished are equivalently grievous and heinous practices that define genocide within nations.Regimes do not deliberate to impose their jeopardy on a people within an instant as you know.Deceit, Detriment intended to destroy, disempower or manipulate human lives involve years of concerted and consistent planning and orchestration.Within war torn zones even where dissolutions occur, there are no winners, no liberated persons only tired and very relieved persons who are grateful that over wars / revolutions with worse detriment have been averted.The TRC account writes about the wars in RSA that just means and just ends are at issue:just war theory indicates that although state and non-state actors could both commit human rights violations... those with the most power must carry the heaviest responsibilites:really I  conclude that this is a figment of imagination another tool for and of political monopololy for ideological purposes not all intended to serve the people beneficially.The Lord bless you,Jennifer.

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I think that it is difficult to characterize Apartheid as genocide.  It was an immoral and insidious regime, but it is not the same as genocide.  It is easy for me to say from my point of view outside of South Africa, but the truth and reconciliation commission was necessary.  If there was an attempt to prosecute everyone who participated in Apartheid, the country would have been torn apart.

Pohnpei your response is clearly endearing and indicative of a sensitivity evident in an honourable repose of compassion for our nation and our people,thank you.I must insist though that: inherent to the TRC process was the instatement of 'other legal matters in resolution / outer court procedure' the types of procedures generally associated with outer court negotiations/ settlements in civil and other matters, the extent of which the ultimate settlements were 'valued/devalued' redress of singular elitist salvaging of consciences at the expense of victims to the extent of R14000.00 per victim/ per injury ensuing or subsequent plight and suffering excluded.The latter I claim inevitably serves the purpose of the intended injury imposed on the victims by the perpetrators in the first place.In addition,the TRC advocated restorative justice as its judicial policies intended practice where pertinent.This has had insurmountable repurcussions because it has not curtailed overt or covert retaliation,continued hatred, revenge and injustices.Please do not forget that RSA had a militancy that infiltrated both Church and State as Church and State RSA among all cultures in all places.Vengefulness continue.My perceptions are that where mechanisms for generational formulated and patterened destruction have been employed or established, genocide was the intention, genocide was the practice and genocide exists.

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