SuicideMy wife's cousin hung herself with a large truck tie down strap. In fact, she was so high in a tree that the fire department had to use a ladder truck to get her down. Is this a normal...

Suicide

My wife's cousin hung herself with a large truck tie down strap. In fact, she was so high in a tree that the fire department had to use a ladder truck to get her down. Is this a normal profile for suicide hanging?

She gave no indication of even thinking about doing this. She told her mother that she was going to leave her husband because of all the things going on in the house, drug and load music because she could not study her college courses and she also told her husband which was a rocker and the next morning she was found hanging in a tree on a secluded road. her husband did not even go looking for her but kept calling the girls mother asking if she had found her? ~~ just saying ~~ I am a retired Law enforcement officer and it just does't add up. Could someone please help us with this? She was a small girl and I just can't see her climbing that high with a 6 inch wide strap tying it to the tree that high and then around her neck..

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mwestwood | College Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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The fact that she attempted such an act before puts things in a new light, does it not?  So tragic....our condolences from enotes.  If only people would go to professionals for help.  Suicide has its selfish side as those who care about the person are left in the quandry that you describe while the victims have departed this life.

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literaturenerd | High School Teacher | (Level 2) Educator Emeritus

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I have to agree with post #3, women and men have both been seen as committing suicide in very specific ways. As for hanging, I cannot say that one gender over the other has been studied regarding prevalence.

That being said, given the numerous speakers on the subject that I have heard, once a person makes the decision to take their own life, there is not much (if anything) another person can do to deter them.

I am very sorry for your loss. Losing a loved one prematurely is always devastating.

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clairewait | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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It sounds like you are suggesting that this couldn't have been a suicide, but rather was a potential homicide.  It is my understanding that suicides are typically investigated rigorously and if any evidence suggests foul play, police and investigators take such evidence into account.

It seems that as a retired law enforcement officer yourself, you would have access to better resources on such a subject than an academic forum on the Internet.  I'm guessing that there must be someone with whom you have formerly worked who could better assist you in answering some of these questions and persuing this issue with results.  Good luck in your endeavor.

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vangoghfan | College Teacher | (Level 2) Educator Emeritus

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I'm very, very sorry about your loss. I have always read and heard that women are more likely to use pills to attempt suicide, whereas men are more likely to use guns.  I think I also recall reading that women are more likely to attempt suicide and fail, but that men are less likely to attempt suicide but more likely to succeed if they do attempt it.  Do the police have any reason to think that this case is suspiciou?

Here is some information that may be helpful to you:

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=84760

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wannam | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Educator

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It would be difficult to say what she may or may not have done without knowing her, but I will offer an objective opinion.  If she felt she had no other way out, she might have committed suicide.  I would imagine that leaving a husband and/or a family would be a very difficult thing to do.  Surely there had to have been a lot of problems going on for her to decide to leave him.  Perhaps she climbed into the tree because she did not want her body to be found.  Perhaps she was afraid the lower limbs would not support her weight.  It does seem unusual for a suicide to take place so high up in a tree, but what's the alternative?  Would it really be possible for someone to carry her up into the tree?  How would anyone have been able to get her up that high while she was fighting them or unconscious?  I'm so sorry your family is having to go through this.

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jfriend33 | eNotes Newbie

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It would be difficult to say what she may or may not have done without knowing her, but I will offer an objective opinion.  If she felt she had no other way out, she might have committed suicide.  I would imagine that leaving a husband and/or a family would be a very difficult thing to do.  Surely there had to have been a lot of problems going on for her to decide to leave him.  Perhaps she climbed into the tree because she did not want her body to be found.  Perhaps she was afraid the lower limbs would not support her weight.  It does seem unusual for a suicide to take place so high up in a tree, but what's the alternative?  Would it really be possible for someone to carry her up into the tree?  How would anyone have been able to get her up that high while she was fighting them or unconscious?  I'm so sorry your family is having to go through this.

After further investagation we found that my wife's niece in fact hung herself. The tie down that was used was a small strape. The person that said she was really high in the tree didn't know what they were talking about, Her feet were about two inches off the ground after hanging. She infact climbed to the top of her SUV and threw the strape and made a slip knot around the limb, tieing the other around her neck. after awhile the pills she took caused her to start going to sleep and her feet slid out from under her and she fell hanging herself. I would like to thank all in this discusion for your help in this matter.

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It sounds like you are suggesting that this couldn't have been a suicide, but rather was a potential homicide.  It is my understanding that suicides are typically investigated rigorously and if any evidence suggests foul play, police and investigators take such evidence into account.

It seems that as a retired law enforcement officer yourself, you would have access to better resources on such a subject than an academic forum on the Internet.  I'm guessing that there must be someone with whom you have formerly worked who could better assist you in answering some of these questions and persuing this issue with results.  Good luck in your endeavor.

your reply is greatly appreciated and yes I do have others that have educated me on this. I was a Patrol officer and didn't get into this kind of thing much. This was my wife's cousin and I really didn't know up until tonight that she had attempted this before. I think her mother dropped the ball ~~ just saying ~~ on this one. She should have got her daughter into a hospital. It just appears strange to me that she would pack all her things, drive down a lonely road, climb up into a tree that high, tie a  strap out on a limb and climbout after tying it around her neck and drop off..Such a sad situation. But thanks for your input.

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bhawanipur | College Teacher | (Level 1) Valedictorian

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Suicide, now a days, is considered as a disease. Either because of too much of physical torture or mental agony; some people come to a decision that it is better to kill his/her body. Psychologically, thinking much of one action leads to the cosequences. If someone has resorted to suicide, he keeps on attempting unless psychological treament cures.

There are people who less express their innner feelings to others rather tries their best to tolerate to an extent and then his/her mind resolves to act thus.

Thirldy, in such a state of mind, one only climbs to his destination. His/her mind gams. They can think nothing other than achieving their desired end. At that moment everything is possible. Like we say its the mind that works and if somebody's mind power becomes strong, he can achieve.

As you are a retired Law Enforcement officcer, you can very well understood if she was likked and put up in such a height by forensic investigation.

Finally, my point of view is different. We know that nobody wishes to die of his own and yet dies and there are reasons and no reasons. I think its natural. It is destined. In the world, we are making hue and cry to stop killing/trying to convince not to suicide. There is no end to it.

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