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Was it inevitable that there was conflict between Islam and Christian Europe during the Medaeval period? What are some charcteristics of Islamic civilization that led to conflict?

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stolperia | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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I have to regretfully agree with those who hold that the conflict was inevitable.

The basis of any religion is personal belief, which is not a rational thing that can be objectively presented and analyzed for accuracy or connection with the physical world. When persons who deeply believe and affirm differing religious ideas are challenged by persons with a different, equally strongly held set of ideas, the efforts of each group to convert the other to their "correct" way of thinking will almost always lead to conflict. When territorial or economic justifications are added to the impetus of spreading the "true religion," you definitely have a beginning point for armed disagreement.

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vangoghfan | College Teacher | (Level 2) Educator Emeritus

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Probably few things in history are truly inevitable, but this conflict is one of many that have occurred throughout history because of extreme religious differences. Ironically, often the most intense conflicts involve people who claim to worship the same deity. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all "Abrahamic" faiths; Shi'ites and Sunnis are both followers of Islam; Protestants and Catholics are both Christians. Judaism also has its different branches. Often the conflicts within religions are at least as intense as the conflicts between religions.

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enotechris | College Teacher | (Level 2) Senior Educator

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As post #4 states, it wasn't inevitable.  For it not to have happened would have required a monumental effort at dipolmacy,however.  Ideological conflicts are, under the hood, based on economics; the Christian world, coming out of its Dark Age, began to expand into Muslim areas, ironically the same areas that had been, for the most part, under the control of the Roman Empire.

Europe wanted the trading routes that were under Muslim control.  Failing successful negotiation, there was long term warfare.

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pohnpei397 | College Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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It's really hard to pin this one on religion and on "Islamic Civilization."  I mean, during this time, everyone was at war with everyone.  This was a time when essentially everyone thought that might made right and that the best way to get rich and powerful was to conquer.  If there was something about Islamic Civilization that made it inevitable, then there was also something about Christian civilization, Mongol civilization, Aztec civilization, etc...

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Jessica Pope | College Teacher | (Level 1) Educator

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It wasn't inevitable. Everthing that happens in history is contingent on a number of factors. Islamic and Christian Europe broke out into a violent frenzy because there was competing centers of power, vying for everthing from money to territory to the people's loyalty. The Islamic civilization of eastern Europe was vast and the Christian civilization of Western Europe was equally powerful. Each constantly tried to encroach upon the territory of the other. That's why violence ensued on a mass scale.

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accessteacher | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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If we look at this question ideologically, when you have two opposing religious systems that both offer a different version or view of life that does not accept the existence of another ideological and religious viewpoint, conflict becomes inevitable. Both Christianity and Islam offer conclusive ways of viewing the world that present that view as being right and therefore, by implication, those who don't ascribe to that view, as being "wrong."

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scarletpimpernel | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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Yes, conflict between the followers of both religions seemed and still seems unavoidable for several reasons. First, during the Middle Ages, those in power (particularly those who held religious positions) used that power to oppress the people of their regions. They held the keys to literacy and, therefore, were able to convince their uneducated followers that whatever they proposed--war, sacrifice, complete reliance upon the religion--was morally right. Thus, when leaders of either side promoted the importance of possessing the city of Jerusalem, Christian and Muslim adherents acted upon those commands, often violently.

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najm1947 | Elementary School Teacher | (Level 1) Valedictorian

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A very interesting post at 53.

In Islam there are many restrictions and in christians they dont beleive in placing restrictions. - massy7890

Islam is the most dynamic religion Massy and I would like to know the restrictions you are talking about that are not their in Christianity. Islam is the only religion that encourages learning and exploration. I am really surprised to see this comment.

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najm1947 | Elementary School Teacher | (Level 1) Valedictorian

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Thanks ravendaily8. The point has been well taken in the last paragraph of the post.

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wanderista | Student, Grade 11 | (Level 2) Valedictorian

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I don't have a strong enough opinion on the topic, but I do feel obliged to respond to Alilion (post 35) and Post 37's statements about Wikipedia. In my opinion, although Wikipedia can technically be edited by everyone, content that is not relevant will be deleted by volunteer moderators and employed Wikipedia staff members. ALL edits go to these moderators before they are visible to the public and become permanent. If the mods are unsure about the edits, there will be plenty of badges and warnings telling the reader that the information may need some second checking.

Also, there are a bunch of sources and references at the bottom of the page that seconds and corroborates what is said in the articles. The footnotes aren't there to look technical!

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alilion | Student, Undergraduate | (Level 1) Salutatorian

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Personally i think the main problem sonetimes is, that peop,e just cant accept. Come on m.a islam is the fastst growing religion, no offence but i believe that these people who make these negtive remarks are full of themselves, they cannot accept it. I.a they realise n open they eyes and see the truth

True saying...but some people say things out of ignorance which is totally wrong especially about someone who has Great Status.. obvs i know Islam is the fastest growing religion..lol no offence??.. whats that all about

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miss-x- | Student, Undergraduate | (Level 2) eNoter

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Personally i think the main problem sonetimes is, that peop,e just cant accept. Come on m.a islam is the fastst growing religion, no offence but i believe that these people who make these negtive remarks are full of themselves, they cannot accept it. I.a they realise n open they eyes and see the truth

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