human Beings on EarthI am just thinking... could we say God made a mistake by creating man and putting him in the continent where Devil (Lucifer) was thrown from Heaven? I say this because, the...

human Beings on Earth

I am just thinking... could we say God made a mistake by creating man and putting him in the continent where Devil (Lucifer) was thrown from Heaven? I say this because, the devil is a wounded flustrated dog, so to put human beings in a place where he is, simply means throwing human, to the wolves or den of lions. We all know what will happen, humans will be eaten and shreaded alive. What do you think?

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wannam | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Educator

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In my opinion, God doesn't make mistakes, but we (humans) do.  If God is absolute goodness and humans have free will, then humans have to exist in a place where evil is present in order to have something to chose between.  Even in the story of the Garden of Eden, things didn't go poorly until the humans chose to go against God.  Did God make a mistake in putting the tree there?  No, he told them not to eat it.  Adam and Eve made a choice.  God gave us guidelines to follow in order to protect us, it is our choice not to follow them.  God didn't "throw us to the wolves" but he did allow us to make up our own minds.  Sometimes I think we throw ourselves to wolves while God shakes his head and cries.

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pacorz | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Educator

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I myself think of God as more of a benevolent observer than an active participant in our daily lives. Like other posters, I agree that God makes no mistakes - frankly I don't think we make mistakes either, I think we make choices. Assigning a value judgement by calling an action a mistake is arguing with reality, which it pointless. You make your choices through free will, as does everyone else, and then the laws of physics take over - however the activity thus created is so complex that no one can foresee where it will all end up. If your choice does not have the consequences you intended, then that should be a growth experience.

If you choose an action that is in alignment with Satan's objectives you will suffer some negative consequences, because Satan loves no one but himself - that is his sin, and his objectives are always self-centered. If you choose to act in alignment with God, then you will see consequences that increase the net amount of love and joy in the world.

God made us intelligent. He didn't want us to die of boredom. Just as wise pet owners give their dogs and cats something to do so as to minimize their boredom and frustration and keep them out of "trouble" - i.e., wrecking the house - God makes us work for our physical sustenance. As we have used our brains to minimize the amount of time and effort we have to put into staying alive and healthy, we've freed up time and energy to do other things, including get in all sorts of trouble.

 

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bigdreams1 | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Associate Educator

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While I agree with many of the posters about God not making mistakes (because if he did, then he wouldn't be perfect, and an imperfect God is a scary premise), I have some of the same troubling thoughts as the question-asker.

I was taught, growing up in the church, that parents are a "type" of Christ (God); that we can understand God's actions/rationale by understanding how parents feel and what they do with their children.

If this is so...then I (like many) struggle with the age-old question of why God allows bad things happen to good people. As a parent, I would never allow someone to rape or abuse my child...but it happens in the world all the time; and while I agree that God doesn't DO this to people.. he does ALLOW it.

Accessteacher called it a "game" that God played with Job. I'm sorry, but that sounds rather cruel to me. If it's a "test", then what happens if the person going through trials fails the test? Does God not love them anymore? Do you get repeated tests until you pass them in the right way?

Don't get me wrong...I believe in God. I have faith. However, as I've aged I have started to ask questions rather than to believe blindly what is preached to me from the pulpit...which I think is something God would approve of. In scripture, he praised the Bereans for researching what the preachers around them said, to see if it was true! Seems like God is a fan of education! YEY!

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stolperia | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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It is a blessing to be able to read and consider these comments. What a great theological support system we have here!

The great challenge for us all is to choose to develop a faith that is deep enough and strong enough to sustain us during the times of testing created by the devil. God gives us the "tools" to do so, but it is up to us to carry out our part of the plan.

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accessteacher | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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The relationship between humans, God and the devil is a very interesting one, and you might want to consider the Book of Job in the Bible when thinking about it. This is an example of when God deliberately gives Job over to the devil to be tested in a kind of game. I don't think we can say God makes mistakes, so we need to think about the way that we can be tempted by the devil might actually help us develop faithfulness and perseverance in our relationship with God.

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literaturenerd | High School Teacher | (Level 2) Educator Emeritus

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I must agree with the previous postings. God does/did not make mistakes. It is stated that he knows the plan of our lives before we were born. Therefore, God knew/knows that mankind will sin. Therefore, it would have been no "surprise" to God the choices in life man makes and the fact that he was allowing mankind to live in a place where he/she must face challenges brought on by the Devil.

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missy575 | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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Many humans to give in to sin because the Devil is at work. However, the bible guarantees that everyone will have at least one moment in their life wherein they are presented with the opportunity to choose God.

I absolutely agree that humans are weak. The idea that they could get "eaten and shredded alive" disagrees with the content of the bible. Yes, humans will experience challenges of the Devil, but having been made in God's image, and being given the power of God should they access it, humans can overcome the Devil.

 

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pohnpei397 | College Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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If you put human beings in a place where there is no devil, there is no possibility for the human beings to sin.  If humans cannot sin, then they have no free will.  If humans have no free will, they cannot freely choose God.  So, it is necessary to put humans in a place where evil, in the form of the devil, can exist.  Otherwise, they cannot truly choose to be the children of God.

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litteacher8 | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

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This seems to be an opinion question. First of all, God does not make mistakes by definition. What you see as a mistake might actually be interpreted as a test. Humans, after all, can be tempted by the devil but they still make their own choices.

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beefheart | Student, Undergraduate | (Level 3) Honors

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How is it possible that on an educational website we have TEN teachers answering a question about Adam and Eve and not one of you has the chutzpah to say that it is just a silly old story with no relevance to the modern world?

Devils? Talking snakes? People made from mud?

HELLO??? IT IS A SILLY OLD CREATION STORY FROM A STONE-AGE DESERT PEOPLE. GET OVER IT!

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