How would you prove creation in a Christian's perspective? Please include Biblical references.

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sciftw | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

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This is a loaded question.  There are too many parameters that the question hasn't defined.  Does it mean prove creation according to a literal 6000 year creation model?  Some Christians believe that the world/Earth/universe/etc. is only 6000 years old, because they believe in a 100% literal interpretation of scripture.  Still other Christians are best described as Evolutionary Creationists.  They believe that God's creation of the Earth/world/universe took incredible amounts of time.  That follows the time scale that non-Christian evolutionists would adhere to.  The difference is that a non-Christian believes that all of the universe and its order is a result of random chance, while a Christian believes that God was integral at each moment of those 15 billion years.  

Let's look at a rough sketch of universe creation according to Big Bang Theory. All matter and energy was contained within an object about the size of a golf ball.  It exploded (15 billion years ago). Gravity began to pull things together in "clumpy" pockets.  Really big pockets are galaxies, which then contain smaller clumps called nebulae, which then lead to the formation of stars and solar systems.  Solar systems have planets.  Planet Earth was formed in this way 4.5 billion years ago.  Its early surface and atmosphere were not hospitable to life. Eventually it cooled down enough where water condensed and lakes and oceans were born. Life supposedly then got started in the oceans and migrated/evolved to be adapted to the land. Then humans showed up.  That's Big Bang Evolutionary Theory in the smallest nut shell imaginable.  

Let me compare that to the Genesis 1 account of creation. "Now the earth was formless and empty."  That's exactly what the universe would be before there was a universe. Formless and empty.  

"Day" 1: "And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light."  I'm quite certain that a bang big enough to create all of the universe and all that is in it would be quite bright. 

"Day" 2 and 3: Separation of water and sky. Separation of dry ground and "seas."  Again scientific theory follows that order.  Volcanic activity created new land as the atmosphere condensed to form oceans. 

"Day" 4: Creation of stars and moon.  According to current lunar formation theory, our moon appeared sometime AFTER Earth was well on its way toward full formation. We also know that the sun is not the youngest star in the universe, so it makes scientific sense that scripture mentions stars being formed after Earth was formed. 

"Day" 5: First life on Earth.

"And God said, 'Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.' So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good."

That fits with current fossil records.  Fish came before land creatures.  Amphibians and reptiles came next. Eventually mammals.  

"Day" 6: 

"And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so."

Land animals and a few verses later is humans, which the fossil record does indicate. 

I don't think Christians need to prove creation as your question implies.  Creation exists.  We are living on it.  As for scripture describing creation, the Bible doesn't explain a mechanism for creation.  It simply gives a rough order and explains that an all powerful creative force was in charge of creation.  At its core, I don't believe that science is trying to disprove God.  I believe that science's goal is to seek understanding of the laws and mechanisms that God has put into place.  Creationists and evolutionists need not be two sides to the same coin.  They can co-exist no problem.  

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mindcandy | Elementary School Teacher | (Level 1) Adjunct Educator

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In my perspective, I feel there is also something to be gained if we first look at the Bible from a literary perspective when trying to answer your question. To 'prove creation in a Christian perspective' is only challenging because we haggle over the time constraint of a human day. When looking at the Bible as literature, it is necessary to look at the framework in which the Jewish authors finally wrote down their oral tradition of the Genesis story-- a framework where numbers and measurement of time had a much more powerful (and less literal) meaning. For instance, the ages of the patriarchs, etc., repeat certain numbers (7, 10, 17, 40) that were culturally significant and symbolic. There are many text resources that go into the numerical symbolism of the Old Testament/Torah that you may want to read for further research. A literal interpretation of these numbers hobbles a larger interpretation of the author's overall theme.

Additionally, there are many other places in the Bible where something unusual seems to be going on, time-wise. For instance: "...I have appointed thee each day for a year" [Ezekiel 4:6]. From a literature-based perspective, this doesn't indicate the author (or authors', or Author's) inaccuracy or sloppiness, but it fits with the author's overall purpose. Perhaps the author is communicating that time is more fluid than we think. Perhaps our measurement of 'day' is not the same as the author's measurement. You may find a faith-based and a science-based [physics] answer for this.

In any case, Genesis orders creative events in such a way that meshes with our current scientific understanding. Finally, it's possible to think of faith as the 'why' and science as the 'how.' They are not in competition with one another; they both describe the same existence.

I hope this helps.

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pink-zebra | (Level 1) Honors

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There is a quote from a famous man and he says, "I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." He's got a point there. The goal isn't to make everyone happy, it's to point to the truth. Altering the truth to make smiles isn't the way to state "facts". Even if there is a way to merge things, it isn't the right thing to do.

Say you take a person to court for murder. All the evidence points that the suspect is guilty, but the criminal doesn't want to go to prison. The people that are pressing charges against him only want their loved one back. So the jury sees that everyone is unhappy, so he decides to say. "I think that this man didn't kill the man, but I think the man is still alive". The jury calls case closed and thinks that everything will continue to go fine, but both sides still know the real truth. One side doesn't admit it for fear of being put in jail.

You see, when you try to do this, it makes a third side because not everyone will go with what you theorize. People that try to merge these beliefs into one are like the jury. Another problem with that is why just please Christians and evolutionists? Why not throw in Buddhism, Islam and Judaism?

Let me also point out to you that in the Bible, it says:

(Genesis 1:3-23)

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse[a] in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 And God made[b] the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. And it was so. 8 And God called the expanse Heaven.[c] And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth,[d] and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants[e] yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,[f] and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.

20 And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds[g] fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” 21 So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.

The Bible specifically states that each part was made the next day. There was no 14 million year gap between each part of creation. If you try to omit things from the Bible, why should you even use the Bible to explain creation? 

In court, a man testifies, but the jury doesn't like everything he hears, so he just takes bits and pieces and throws a scenario together , hoping everyone will be pleased with it. 

That's what some people try to do, but it's either the whole truth or no truth. 

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pink-zebra | (Level 1) Honors

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In that passage in Ezekiel, it says that a day (of lying down) was appointed for each year (of Judah's sinning). It's not saying that one day was 365 earth rotations. And I believe the Faith explains 'Why' and the Bible explains the 'How', Science just helps prove the Bible is a trustworthy source.

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