The fruit in garden of EdenI know you might have had these questions before but please continue blessing me with your posts. Do we have this fruit among us on this planet earth and what is the name...
I know you might have had these questions before but please continue blessing me with your posts. Do we have this fruit among us on this planet earth and what is the name of it. I saw a fruit called Devil's fruit for the first time last month and it srtiked this question in a different way because i thought the fruit was just the love making between Adam and Eve. Could it be a spiritual fruit that is unseen?
What a refreshing question, ... literally! Ha! The truth of the matter is I have NO idea! I only know the usual association with the forbidden fruit is with the current (and boring) apple. Considering that this fruit was found within the Garden of Eden, ... and that both Adam and Eve were banished from there after their Original Sin, then it stands to reason that this particular fruit once existed between the Tigris and the Euphrates river, ... and no longer does. Humans are no longer allowed to enter the Garden of Eden.
Therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3:23-24
If you look closely at these lines, you will see that part of the "job" of the cherubim themselves was to "guard the way to the tree of life." Truly, if this fruit were still available (with all of its power to "know"), I'm sure people would still be tempted by it today. I think an interesting aspect to this story would be to read about the White Witch in The Chronicles of Narnia, ... with specific relation to this particular part to the story: the tree, the red fruit, the witch taking a bite. An interesting twist by C.S. Lewis on the same story, ... in a different time.
I agree that the Garden of Eden is metaphorical as is the "forbidden fruit." Genesis describes it as "the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." John Milton in Paradise Lost describes that sin as sex; and from this theory comes the entire idea that sex is dirty and sinful; in fact later Puritan thinkers concluded that since the original sin was sex, all human beings are born into a sinful existence, since they are conceived by sex. The idea has remained among fundamentalist Christians. Their philosophy is augmented by a verse from the 51st Psalm:
"I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me."
The word "evil" is derived from Eve, who first accepted the fruit and gave it to Adam, hence the idea of women being the source of temptation and weakness. The argument has been so pervasive that it has gained almost universal acceptance; yet there is nothing Biblical to support it; nothing in the story of Genesis indicates that sex was that forbidden fruit; it only says that after they consumed the fruit, their eyes were opened, and they realized they were naked. A safer conclusion was that the forbidden fruit was the act of disobedience to God in itself, which destroyed forever the idea of a sinless existence.
The fruit was the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So I don't see how that could be equated with Adam and Eve making love. I think it is revealing that we would equate original sin with sex...
To me, eating of the fruit is a metaphor for becoming truly human. Animals and small children do not know the difference between good and evil, right? When small children become fully responsible for their actions, it is because they have understood what the difference is between good actions and bad actions. This is, I think, what the story is about. We became fully human by understanding what good and evil were. We were no longer like little children who live in bliss and do not know right and wrong. Instead, we became human/adult and this made us responsible for our actions.
I don't think there was any literal fruit...
Well isn't that an interesting thought: a spiritual, non-corporeal fruit. This is a new theory, as far as I know--well--except that if Eden is metaphorical, as some hold, then the fruit in said metaphorical Garden would certainly be metaphorical also. However I believe it to be an uncommon, if not new, thought that a spiritual "fruit" was in place in a corporeal Garden: a Garden that did exist as physical matter in a physical location. I've always heard the fruit described--by those who describe it--as an apple or passion fruit or a fig.
I agree with some other editors in believing the Garden of Eden to be metaphorical in nature, and thus we can understand the fruit to be likewise metaphorical. I had heard the pommegranate theory before, but I would be interested to know why it is that you want to know what the fruit was. Clearly, we will not be able to initiate a "second fall" or gain new knowledge from eating it. The act of eating the fruit is itself symbolic of disobedience to God's will.
I had not heard the "pomegranate theory", but I appreciate becoming aware of it. Given that I haven't spent much time researching the produce of that part of the world at that time, I have wondered why pomegranates were featured so prominently in the embroidered decorations for the priests' clothing as the directions for creating the Temple and its equipment were being given. Maybe I've now found an explanation. Thank you!
I have heard of the pomegranate theory, and if you are a literalist...it makes sense. How this fruit turned into an apple in modern-day Christianity is a mystery, other than it may just be a misinterpretation of the ancient Greek or Hebrew.
However, like many of the posters above have indicated...the fruit may very well be a metaphor for temptation.
My own personal thought is that the fruit is a symbol of original sin. God needed something to insure that free will was able to exist. Today we do not need the "apple" or "pomegranate" to represent temptation, we have many of our own "apples" we are tempted with everyday. I simply agree with many of the other posters regarding the fruit being a metaphor.
I was just wondering to the fact that if we all knew the bad fruit that brought all this mess, why don't we tell everyone about it so they don't eat from it ever again. - Imlovelife
So, if people don't eat apples ever again, then bad things won't happen. Is that what you are saying? Eating specific types of fruit is the cause of human suffering?
I asked because, I was just wondering to the fact that if we all knew the bad fruit that brought all this mess, why don't we tell everyone about it so they don't eat from it ever again. Why are we still eating of it again and agin. Are we not making it worse? So, thank you all posters for your amazing revelations, understanding and contributions on the subject.
Thank you church.