Why is Jesus believed to be "God" or the Son of God?Why is Jesus believed to be "God" or the Son of God?

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In response to Number Two: This same issue bedeviled many early Christians who could not conceive that Jesus could be both. Some argued that he could not be human, because all humans have human weaknesses, and Jesus was perfect. Still others, particularly the Arian "heresy" preached that Jesus was all human. The issue presumably was settled at the Council of Nicaea, at which Constantine himself was present, which determined that Jesus was both God and man. I am not sure that a logical explanation exists. However this is also true with many other tenets of Christianity, including the resurrection of the dead, and a number of miracles attributed to Jesus. In the Second Commandment, the Jews were told not to make unto themselves any "graven image." This included images of God himself. The reason for this is that once one "defines" an idea so that one can understand it, then one has limited it, and God cannot be so limited. Our own human understanding is such that we cannot "define" Jesus as wholly God and wholly man and make sense of it. We simply must accept it as it is, an element of faith.

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As a Christian, I do not call Jesus "God." He is the Son of God. The idea is that there are three forms of God: God the Father, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I cannot pretend to completely understand the intricacies of the relationship of the three, but somethings are taken on faith. I have faith that I will wake in the morning, and the sun will be shining. There are no guarantees, but I take them on faith.

When I teach Sunday School, I tell my students that Jesus was sent in human form to walk with mankind and experience the existence of mankind. He was sacrificed to remove from us our sin. In the Old Testament, this was done by offering an animal as a sacrifice and burning the carcass on an alter. When Christ died, this was no longer necessary. My faith teaches us that we need only ask for forgiveness because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice to make things right between man and God.

As with all religion, some things must be taken on faith. In a world of science, we can look to facts and compare them with ideas and judge whether the ideas are right or wrong, based on those facts.

Religion is based partially on facts. History books support some things in the Bible. However, the rest is taken on faith or not. It's not a question of right or wrong from a humanistic standpoint. We see the right and wrong of it as believers.

We make our choices and stick with them: as we do with love, art, politics, and everything else in the world. Never will everyone agree: even those within the same faith. Here it comes down to what you believe personally. What speaks to your heart has to be right for you; it does not have to be right with everyone else. It's a personal decision and a personal "journey." Not easy, but that is a long list...

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This is true, Wikipedia is not a reliable source.  If you are seriously interested in the question above, why not read the four Gospels?  Why not read The Cathecism of the Catholic Church?  Read the great Scholastic Theologists and Philosophers from Aquinas to Albertus Magnus.  Read the entire New Testament!

If you are seriously interested in an answer to this profound question, there are many places to begin.... Wikipedia is not one of them.

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Jesus is both God and Son of God, who became man to save the world from its sins. He did not want people to worship Him as a man; instead, He came to show us how to serve others, as He did when He washed His disciples' feet. Those who believe in Him can, however, perform miracles here on earth in His name as the Son of God.  Jesus is the Son of God; for His 33 years on earth, He was also a man who had free will and choice, just as we do.  He didn't ever stop being the Son of God. 

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No, please answer my question first, why do christians call Jesus GOD. That is just not right!

This is a complicated question and one that stirs up controversy. Not being one who enjoys creating divisiveness and hostility, I'll just say two things. One reason those who believe the Gospels of the New Testament equate Jesus with God is because of the words in some of the predicting texts of the Old Testament. On such text is Isaiah 9:6 in which it is proclaimed that the one to be born from King David's lineage will be called "Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Those who believe the Gospels believe that this refers to Jesus who was a descendant of King David.

Another reason is because of some of the confirming texts in the New Testament. On such text is the opening portions of the Gospel of John (ch.1) in which the Apostle John (not John the Baptist) equates the Word with God. Then John equates the Word (which is God) with the Light, so the Light is also God:

Word = God
Word = Light
Light = God
A = B = C = A

Then the Apostle John says John the Baptist came to testify to the Light (v.7) because the Light had come into the world (v.9), because the Word (equal to Light) had become flesh (v.14). John the Baptist himself said he came to testify of the Lord; the Lord equates with God. Then John said of Jesus that Jesus is the one of whom he was testifying, equating Jesus with the Light and with the Word and further equating Jesus with the Lord and with God. So Jesus is equated with the Lord and with the Light and with the Word, which all equate with God. So Jesus is called the Word; Jesus is called the Light; Jesus is called the Lord; and Jesus is called God. These are two of the reasons that those who believe the Gospels of the New Testament call Jesus God.

Lord = God
Lord = Jesus
Jesus = God
A = B
A = C
C = B
A = B = C
Word = the one being testified of
Light = the one being testified of
Lord = the one being testified of
Jesus = the one being testified of
Word = God = Light = Lord = Jesus = God

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Jesus of Nazareth, called Christ, is equated in the texts discussing him with God and the Son of God in three ways: (1) predicting and confirming text in the Old and New testaments (e.g., II Samuel 7 12-15; Psalms 2:7; John 1:1-18); (2) Jesus' own words (e.g., John 10:35-37; John 9:34-37); and (3) the witness of others, which is the most extensive of the three categories (e.g., John 1:32-36; John 20:31; Matthew 16:16; Matthew 14:33); it is recorded that even demons bore wittiness to Jesus being the Son of God (e.g., Matthew 8:29; Mark 5:7).

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If you are inclined to skepticism, you will note that the testimony from the New Testament is self-serving -- it is written by early Christians to validate and support their own beliefs.  You can argue that it is not really valid to say "Jesus is God because his followers said so."

You can argue that Jesus is seen as divine because his disciples wanted him to be seen that way after his death.  You can argue that they made claims for him that he never made for himself.  If you look at it this way (which I am not advocating for or against) Jesus is seen as divine because his followers did a good job of convincing people that he was divine.

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Jesus is to be "believed to be God," because he says he is the only Son of God.  There are two moments in the gospels that affirm this. During his Baptism, and in Matthew 11:27 and 17:5, during the Transfiguration of Christ, the Father's voice tells the apostles  that this is my "beloved son." Later, at his death, the centurion exclaims, "Surely this is the Son of God."

The Catechism of the Catholic Church includes detailed explanations of the oneness of Christ and the Father. It says, "man should not submit his personal freedom ... to any earthly power but only to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ..."

Be mindful of the fact that the title "Christ" means "Anointed One."  That Jesus is referred to (in the Gospels) as "Lord" implicitly suggests "divine sovereignty."  Jesus tells his disciples that "no one comes to the Father, but by me" (Matthew 11:29).  In John (4:10 and 4:14) he says, "the Father has sent his Son as the savior of the world."  Thus, the expression the "Word was made flesh" defines Jesus as "God."

One may be confused because Jesus was a man, but that doesn't deny his existence as God as well. The Catholic Church clearly states that Jesus is the Son of God, and without ceasing to be God, he  became man. This is a unity of the physical and the Divine.  As the Catechism says, "The Incarnation is therefore the mystery of the wonderful union of the divine and human natures in one person of the Word."

He is, therefore, both the Son of God and God himself.

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Cont. The parting of the Sea. The Hebrew text names the sea that Moses parted Yam Suf. Jacobovici says that the correct translation of Yam Suf is “reed sea”, not Red Sea. Reeds, or marshes, grow in sweat water, not salt water, in lakes, not oceans. In the Ismailia Regional Museum, Jacobovici found an ancient hieroglyphic inscription, the El Arish inscription, on a granite monument that tells the entire story of the Exodus from Pharaoh’s point of view, and that provides the exact location of Yam Suf. If also provides the first archaeological evidence of the parting of the sea. Moses is called the Prince of the desert. The Israelites are called the evil ones. There is a symbol, three waves and two knives, suggesting the parting of a sea or body of water. The engravings on the stone identified the place where the water was parted as Pa Tufe, the marshy sea. Tuff, the Egyptian word for reed, is the same word as Suf in Hebrew, now called the El Balah Lake, which in Hebrew means the lake where God devoured. This ancient lake survived until the 1850’s when the Suez canal drained its waters. Jacobovici speculates that seismic activity associated with the earthquakes could have caused temporary drainage of the REED Lake or Sea, and a subsequent tsunami could have buried the perusing Egyptian army. The missing piece to the puzzle however is the lack of discovery of chariots and horses bones in the dry El Balah Lake bed.
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Death of every first borne male. In the1986 enigma at Lake Nyos, Cameroon, carbon dioxide gas that turned the lake blood red had reached a critical point. Surface of the lake was keeping the gas dissolved in the water until another earthquake caused a landslide of rock into the lake breaking the surface pressure and releasing the gas. The invisible fog of carbon dioxide then rolled across the land suffocating everything in its path. Those on higher ground found 1800 people dead and hundreds of animals dead. Then the cloud simply dissolved into the atmosphere, leaving no trace of its deadly effect. The Bible tells that the selectivity of the deaths of the firstborn males caused Pharaoh to let the Israelites go. The Egyptian custom was for the firstborn sons to sleep on beds near the ground while their brothers slept in lofts and roof-tops. Archaeologists at Avaris have discovered mass graves dating to 1500 BCE containing only males who were all buried at the same time. The mummy of Pharaoh Ahmose’s son Prince Sapair, preserved in the Cairo Museum, shows that he died at the age of 12.

TBC

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Cont. Locusts. The volcanic eruptions and the hail would have caused large swarms of locusts which are common in this part of the world to land in Egypt. Cold weather produces a drop in their body temperature and makes them land in mass. They swarm in groups of 40 to 80 million locusts per square Km. Darkness. Finally, the major Santorini eruption. Santorini pumice was found in Avaris that dates to 1500 BCE. Santorini ash was found in the Nile delta.

TBC

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The ten plagues of Moses:

The Nile river was turned to blood. When earthquakes trigger gas leaks, such as at Lake Nyos, Cameroon in 1986, the water suddenly turned blood red, due to an underground gas leak. Bottom layers contained high concentrations of iron. When the gas brought this iron to the surface, it formed iron hydroxide or rust, which caused the reddish color to the surface of the lake. Earthquakes could cause the gas leaks. Water becomes devoid of oxygen. Everything in the water would die except frogs, which unlike fish, could hop out. The lack of clean water then leads to lice, flies, and bacterial epidemics.
Frog epidemics.
Lice.
Flies
Epidemics.
Boils and blisters for men and animals. At Lake Nyos, Cameroon, carbon dioxide mixed with air and put people into a kind of coma, reducing circulation to the skin resulting in boils and blisters.
Hail of ice and fire mixed together. An Egyptian papyrus, called the Ipuwer Plague Papyrus, dated by many scholars to the Hyksos period says that Egypt was struck by a strange hail made of ice and fire mingled together, what scientist describe as volcanic hail. When the ash cloud from the volcanic eruption goes into the upper atmosphere it causes a hail storm which then falls to the earth along with the volcanic ash.

TBC

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Cont. 3 Based on the Ahmose stele which tells of a great storm and darkness that enveloped Egypt, Jacobovici looks for a volcanic eruption as the likely cataclysmic event described in the carving. Around 1500 BCE was there was such an eruption of the Santorini volcano in modern Greece, one of the most cataclysmic events in history. Island of Santorini, is 700 Km from the Egyptian coast, and this was one of the worst volcanic eruptions in human history bringing to an end the Minoan civilization that once flourished here. Jacobovici theorizes that such an eruption would have been preceded by numerous earthquakes, since the Nile delta is in an earthquake zone. By now Jacobovici has correlated the Pharaoh named Ahmose, the Hyksos expulsion, the Exodus, and the Santorini eruption all to 1500 BCE. He then explores possible scientific explanations for the Biblical story of Moses’ ten plagues, and the parting of the sea. TBC

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