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Which came first the chicken or the egg?  Which came first the chicken or the egg?

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leednata120 | Student | eNotes Newbie

Posted January 21, 2009 at 3:36 PM via web

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Which came first the chicken or the egg?

 Which came first the chicken or the egg?

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amy-lepore | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM (Answer #2)

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This debate has appeared in the discussion section recently.  Search for it, and you'll see why you haven't gotten much of a response here.

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brandih | eNotes Employee

Posted January 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM (Answer #3)

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Here is a link for you to a past discussion.

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enotechris | College Teacher | (Level 2) Senior Educator

Posted January 26, 2009 at 8:06 AM (Answer #4)

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Neither.  Whatever ancestor to both chicken and egg that existed replicated asexually, resembling neither what we would consider to be a chicken nor an egg. When this organism started to replicate sexually, something that eventually became chickens and something that eventually became eggs came into being.  Eggs and chickens are simultaneous developments.

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giorgiana1976 | College Teacher | (Level 3) Valedictorian

Posted January 28, 2009 at 1:03 AM (Answer #5)

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Before chicken to be chicken, it had to be an egg!

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frizzyperm | College Teacher | (Level 3) Valedictorian

Posted January 28, 2009 at 1:39 AM (Answer #6)

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A chicken is a bird. Birds are generally thought to have evolved from small dinosaurs in the mid-late Jurassic, over 150 million years ago. However, the domestic chicken is not an 'early bird' at all and evolved much more recently, probably in the last 500,000 years.

The hard-shelled egg evolved much earlier than birds as part of the conquest of the land by our previously-water-based ancestors. Basically, an egg is a protected little pool of 'sea water' which allows water-evolved animals to reproduce in dry environments. The first group of animals that laid hard-shelled eggs were the amniotes and the earliest known hard-shelled egg is about 340 million years old.

So, the answer to your question is that the EGG is much much older than the CHICKEN. The egg is an old and essential part of understanding life on Earth. The chicken is a rather dim and unimportant bird that tastes nice to the ape Homo Sapiens.  

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halinicole94 | Student, Grade 9 | eNotes Newbie

Posted February 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM (Answer #7)

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well, if you think about it, when god created human, adam and eve were made alive, and breathing.

so then don't you think that the chicken would be born alive and breathing?

sorry if you don't believe in god, or whatever, but its true(:

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frizzyperm | College Teacher | (Level 3) Valedictorian

Posted February 2, 2009 at 2:34 AM (Answer #8)

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In reply 7: The story of The Garden of Eden fails to correspond to the natural world. There isn't any evidence to back up the first chapter of the Bible. But the vast amount of information contained in DNA and fossils makes it a simple matter of arranging all the animals (both alive and extinct) in order that they evolved.

In your ID photo you are holding up a cute little hairless primate, a human being, a member of a species of bipedal primates in the family Hominidae (Homo sapiens: "wise human"). DNAevidence indicates that humans evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago. (His or)Her DNA is as genetically close to a chimpanzee as a tiger's DNA is to a lion's. She is a member of the class mammilia. So, unlike a chicken, she didn't incubate in an egg because mammals incubate inside the female abdomen. The mammals seized the opportunity created by the mass extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Before 65m years ago the fossil record shows that mammals were very small and nocturnal (they were warm blooded and could live at night, dinosaurs were cold and couldn't). Dinosaurs ruled for hundreds of millions of years. Their fossil bones and the age of rocks and the analysis of DNA all link to make unshakeable proof of evolution. 

You and your baby are part of the truly miraculous, massive story of evolution. I would be much more amazed with the God who created evolution than the God who created the little nursery story of Genesis.

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frizzyperm | College Teacher | (Level 3) Valedictorian

Posted February 2, 2009 at 3:05 AM (Answer #9)

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In my above post I said that mammals don't incubate in eggs. Whoops. There is of course one weird little critter that does... The Duck-billed Platypus, a very very strange 'missing link' creature from Australia. It is a half-evolved mammal, half-way between the reptiles and the mammals. It has fur and is warm blooded, but it lays eggs. It's DNA tells us it evolved at exactly the moment the earliest mammal fossils start appearing. The Duck-Billed Platypus and hundreds of other connecting species make evolution impossible to contradict. The theory repeatedly fits the evidence and the evidence repeatedly fits the theory.

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flashinglights | Student, Grade 9 | (Level 3) eNoter

Posted February 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM (Answer #10)

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well, if you think about it, when god created human, adam and eve were made alive, and breathing.

so then don't you think that the chicken would be born alive and breathing?

sorry if you don't believe in god, or whatever, but its true(:

I totally agree!

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neozoe | eNotes Newbie

Posted March 12, 2009 at 6:38 AM (Answer #11)

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In reply 7: The story of The Garden of Eden fails to correspond to the natural world. There isn't any evidence to back up the first chapter of the Bible. But the vast amount of information contained in DNA and fossils makes it a simple matter of arranging all the animals (both alive and extinct) in order that they evolved.

In your ID photo you are holding up a cute little hairless primate, a human being, a member of a species of bipedal primates in the family Hominidae (Homo sapiens: "wise human"). DNAevidence indicates that humans evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago. (His or)Her DNA is as genetically close to a chimpanzee as a tiger's DNA is to a lion's. She is a member of the class mammilia. So, unlike a chicken, she didn't incubate in an egg because mammals incubate inside the female abdomen. The mammals seized the opportunity created by the mass extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Before 65m years ago the fossil record shows that mammals were very small and nocturnal (they were warm blooded and could live at night, dinosaurs were cold and couldn't). Dinosaurs ruled for hundreds of millions of years. Their fossil bones and the age of rocks and the analysis of DNA all link to make unshakeable proof of evolution. 

You and your baby are part of the truly miraculous, massive story of evolution. I would be much more amazed with the God who created evolution than the God who created the little nursery story of Genesis.

There seems to be a lot of use of high-sounding scientific language to lend credence to an argument which is merely a replication of some biology or paleontology text. (If you truly know something then you will be able to express it in simple language. Using high-sounding language is the academic equivalent of shouting in a discussion where logic should be the final arbiter). For those who have not read Genesis chapters 1 and 2, please do, then you will humbly come to realize what renowned geologists & paleontologists have come to see.

The order in the Genesis account is seamlessly in sync with the geologic time scale. It was the best way to express the complexities of creation to a largely pastoral people. Consider trying to explain the concepts of GSM, internet & satellite TV to someone that lived in 600BCE! Try explaining to anyone now! The Genesis account does not comment on microscopic algae etc but then only by modern technology did we recently become aware of them!

Evolution depends on (ever-so-illusive) missing-link fossils, the Genesis account of speaks of creation of an initial type & allowed for diversification within the species.

The Genesis Account of creation, far from being a "little nursery story" is actually an abstract prepared for a pastoral society ill-equipped for an elaborate scientific treatise. I dare say if Genesis chapter 1 & 2 were written for our age...we would need eternity to finish reading it!

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jillyfish | Student, Undergraduate | (Level 1) Valedictorian

Posted March 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM (Answer #12)

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"For those who have not read Genesis chapters 1 and 2, please do, then you will humbly come to realize what renowned geologists & paleontologists have come to see." Neozone

Name one who is not a religious fundamentalist who uses Creationism for the model of their research.

"Evolution depends on (ever-so-illusive) missing-link fossils"

No it doesn't. The correct term for 'missing link' is 'transitional fossil'.

It is commonly claimed by critics of evolution that there are no transitional fossils.Such claims may be based on a misunderstanding of the nature of what represents a transitional feature, or may be a tactic actively employed by creationists seeking to distort or discredit evolutionary theory. Prothero has called that claim the "favourite lie" of creationists and further said that it was "manifestly untrue".

A common, though fallacious, creationist argument is that no fossils are found with partially functional features. Vestigial organs are common in whales for example. Also, there is evidence that a complex feature with one function can adapt to a wholly different function through evolution in a process known as exaptation. The precursor to, for example, a wing, might originally have only been used for gliding, trapping flying prey, and/or mating display. Nowadays, wings may still have all of these functions, while also being used for active flight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil#Misconceptions

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