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Are women subjected by nature, or do men make them subject due to social values and...

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nworie | Student, Undergraduate

Posted January 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM via web

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Are women subjected by nature, or do men make them subject due to social values and norms?

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afi80fl | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Assistant Educator

Posted January 2, 2009 at 11:47 AM (Answer #2)

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I certainly think it would be the social construct that determines a woman's place within a society.  If you were to have twin babies, a boy and a girl, do you believe the girl would grow up having some sort of inferiority complex?  Different cultures allow women different levels of power.  In Africa, women are often subjected to cruel physical procedures that mark them as nothing more than baby-birthing housewives.  Whereas in Britain and the U.S., women have been elected prime minister and have been named Secretary of State, respectively.

It's wrong to think that "nature subjects women", as there is nothing natural about making a woman inferior.  Anyone, male or female, has their place determined by social structure and cultural norms.  Some cultures, such as the Western culture, allow individuals to determine their own level of success and acceptance by allowing them free will.  Other cultures require women to hide their faces, a sign that they are objectified and the real property of the men to whom they are married.

In this case, nurture over nature is definitely the way to look at it.

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cburr | Middle School Teacher | (Level 2) Associate Educator

Posted January 2, 2009 at 7:02 PM (Answer #3)

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One can view woman's natural role as the childbearer as a powerful thing as easily as a form of subjugation.  There is no question that there are differences between the genders.  I remember when it was stylish to say that it was all a matter of environmental influence, and if babies were treated alike they would all be the same.  Rubbish!  However, I do not feel that there is any natural dominance or superiority of one gender.  They each have their special abilities and weaknesses; society decides how these are valued.

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amy-lepore | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 3, 2009 at 7:11 AM (Answer #4)

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Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."  Truer words have never been spoken.  While there are undeniable differences between genders, there is nothing that says women are lesser beings.  Women who work outside the home are no better than women who choose to be at home.  Both are capable of intelligence, hard work, and mutliple tasks at once.  I am a firm believer in different jobs for genders with respect to family and society (not that a woman can't work construction if she wants to--just know that there will be barriers to overcome), but that each deserves equal respect and fair treatment.  It is up to the individual to value him or herself enough to demand the respect he/she deserves.

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enotechris | College Teacher | (Level 2) Senior Educator

Posted January 3, 2009 at 8:21 PM (Answer #5)

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Women are not subjected by nature; men do not make them subject.  Social values and norms preach equality, and if that term is used to connote political and social sameness, then the Western cultures appear to have arrived (the US almost had a woman as president recently....) and other cultures in the world will face that issue someday.  However, in the strict sense of the term, men and women are not equal, and never will be. Equality implies transitivity, that one can be substituted for the other, that one is as interchangeable and the same as the other.  Physical differences make this impossible.  Viva la difference!  

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dbello | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator

Posted January 5, 2009 at 10:22 PM (Answer #6)

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Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."  Truer words have never been spoken.  While there are undeniable differences between genders, there is nothing that says women are lesser beings.  Women who work outside the home are no better than women who choose to be at home.  Both are capable of intelligence, hard work, and mutliple tasks at once.  I am a firm believer in different jobs for genders with respect to family and society (not that a woman can't work construction if she wants to--just know that there will be barriers to overcome), but that each deserves equal respect and fair treatment.  It is up to the individual to value him or herself enough to demand the respect he/she deserves.

  I feel the quote you chose to use in your post embodies both the simplistic and complex nature of the female experience. Although Eleanor Roosevelt lived during a tumultuous time concerning the status of women, I cannot help but think about the women as far back as the ancient world who thought and had the very same idea. For example, no one could argue the subjection of Hatshepshut,Pharoah of Egypt, Cleopatra, Catherine the Great, or Elizabeth I.  The culture of humanity differs from place to place as much as it differs from time to time. In patriarchial societies males dominate females. In matriarchial societies women have the upper hand. However, what was and still can hold remarkable truth is the essence of that quote. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"....Those ten words speak volumes to every woman on this planet.

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krishna-agrawala | College Teacher

Posted May 24, 2009 at 6:38 PM (Answer #7)

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There are some significant physical difference between men and women. Of course, the most significant differences relate to the child bearing role of women. There are some other significant difference between men and women. IN general average body dimensions and strength of women is less than that of men. Ergonomic studies have shown that except for width of hips, for all other body dimensions on average are more than that for women. The wider hip dimension for women is the provision made by nature for easier child birth.

Historically, when people led a difficult life the physical strength was very important, all members of a family had to work on some task. In such condition it was a good idea to to divide work on the basis of suitability for specific gender. As a result women took up greater the responsibilities for domestic work, whereas men took the responsibility for outside or field work. Unfortunately, because of their strength and exposure to outside work, men were able to dominate women. It was wrong at that time also. But it was prevalent - partly aided by natural factors.

In modern days, physical strength is not as important as it used to be. What matters most now is the mental capabilities, and there are no difference in average mental capabilities of men and women. Also, with advancement technologies and development of so many domestic appliances, the total quantity of domestic work is reduced, and more people are available to take up outside work in comparison to domestic work.

In current situation, the advantage men have over women has shrunk considerably. But some practices and belief of the past still continue. I hope with time, whatever discrimination remains will also be eliminated, and society will have the benefit of full potential of its men and women.

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litteacher8 | Middle School Teacher | (Level 1) Distinguished Educator

Posted June 27, 2011 at 6:53 AM (Answer #8)

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There are some matriarchal societies, but throughout human history most of them have been patriarchal. It's not hard to guess why. From our early hunter-gatherer days, men have been the ones that went out to get the meat and protect the tribe. This is because physiologically men do tend to be stronger. The stronger subject the weaker. It's just the way it is. Our society and culture developed from there.

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