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prospero | College Teacher | (Level 2) Adjunct Educator

Posted November 19, 2008 at 12:33 PM via web

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The Teacher's Lounge

Always wanted to have access to the teacher's lounge.  Do we have a coke machine and a couch in here or what.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM (Answer #2)

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I second that! What's everybody reading these days? One of my students is dying for me to read the Ranger's Apprentice series. He is into computer gaming and knows that I love most things medieval and that I play some of the games he plays. So he checked out the book from the library for me. It's pretty interesting but is definitely for adolescents. I'm also trying to read Twilight. I just can't get into it.

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morrol | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Associate Educator

Posted November 19, 2008 at 1:14 PM (Answer #3)

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I too have been trying to understand the "Twilight" obsession. On one hand, it's great that Gothic lit is making a come back, but the quality is not what I would hope. I guess we can just be glad that students are reading something even if it isn't "War and Peace".

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alohaspirit | Middle School Teacher | (Level 2) Assistant Educator

Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:27 PM (Answer #4)

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Ahh....the teacher's lounge...I place of gossip and an exchange of scholarly ideas.  It really is a great place for teachers to share their ideas for lessons and viewpoints on current issues.

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amy-lepore | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted November 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM (Answer #5)

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I am reading Brisinger (sp?) the third in the Eragon series.  It's quite good, but my students are angry that I'm reading too slowly.  Apparently, they don't understand that I have homework (mounds of portfolio pieces, tests, lesson plans, teacher observations,etc.), sponsor two clubs both of which are doing fundraisers right now, have a family life, and am preparing for the Christmas season at church.  I read 3-10 pages per night before my eyelids droop (sometimes the book ends up on my chest instead of the nightstand, at which point my lovely husband takes over and sets everything right).  :)  Twilight?  I'm thinking about it, but so far I haven't jumped in to that water as all my students have.

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Posted November 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM (Answer #6)

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I just started reading Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon. Like his last book, Mason and Dixon, it's very long but so far it's incredible!

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cybil | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator

Posted November 20, 2008 at 12:53 PM (Answer #8)

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Lounge? Coke machine? Couch? We call ours the "Teachers' Workroom."  There's a huge copy machine that duplexes, punches holes, staples, and scans to send documents automatically to our email addresses. We have four desktop computers in there and a great coffee machine that seldom runs out. On one side, there is the usual "coaches' corner," as we jokingly call it, with the comfy chairs where many of the men gather before school. Most of us actually do work in this room, but we also share ideas about teaching and students.

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Posted November 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM (Answer #9)

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I just started reading Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon. Like his last book, Mason and Dixon, it's very long but so far it's incredible!

You have more patience than I do. Do you ascribe to the theory that Pynchon is not a real person but a group of writers?

I hadn't heard that theory but just last night I said to my wife "I can't believe that one guy can write this!"

The amount of historical knowledge, vocabulary, and styles used in Pynchon's works is staggering, although I think it would be difficult to write something that's that cohesive and propulsive by committee.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM (Answer #7)

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I just started reading Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon. Like his last book, Mason and Dixon, it's very long but so far it's incredible!

You have more patience than I do. Do you ascribe to the theory that Pynchon is not a real person but a group of writers?

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kwoo1213 | College Teacher | (Level 2) Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 12:18 AM (Answer #10)

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Yippee! The teacher's lounge.  I am currently reading The Secret, which I have wanted to read for some time.  Interesting book. I am "into" self-reflection books right now. 

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ebbie479 | Elementary School Teacher | Honors

Posted November 21, 2008 at 8:14 AM (Answer #11)

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I heve been teaching 5th and 6th grade for 5 years and now I'm teaching 4th. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a read aloud? I've been through the Superfudge series and I'm not sure where to go next. Please do not say Harry Potter or Twilight. I need books that I can finish in about 2-3 weeks and are not movies. Thanks.

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santari | College Teacher | eNotes Employee

Posted November 21, 2008 at 10:36 AM (Answer #13)

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I heve been teaching 5th and 6th grade for 5 years and now I'm teaching 4th. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a read aloud? I've been through the Superfudge series and I'm not sure where to go next. Please do not say Harry Potter or Twilight. I need books that I can finish in about 2-3 weeks and are not movies. Thanks.

I think the only book I remember my 4th grade teacher reading to us was Where the Red Fern Grows. I can't remember ever being so enthralled. It's a bit heartbreaking as I recall.

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prospero | College Teacher | (Level 2) Adjunct Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 10:54 AM (Answer #12)

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Number 8 that was pretty funny.  But you're kinda hatin' on the Lounge.  Every lounge needs a couch!  Maybe you call it a SO-FA.  Anyway, keep the duplex in the men's corner over there or whatever you're talkin and let's meet up in the lounge for a smoke and a coke.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 11:11 AM (Answer #14)

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I just started reading Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon. Like his last book, Mason and Dixon, it's very long but so far it's incredible!

You have more patience than I do. Do you ascribe to the theory that Pynchon is not a real person but a group of writers?

I hadn't heard that theory but just last night I said to my wife "I can't believe that one guy can write this!"

The amount of historical knowledge, vocabulary, and styles used in Pynchon's works is staggering, although I think it would be difficult to write something that's that cohesive and propulsive by committee.

Some people thought that a group of authors, including Kurt Vonnegut, each wrote a chapter for Gravity's Rainbow.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 11:35 AM (Answer #15)

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Number 8 that was pretty funny.  But you're kinda hatin' on the Lounge.  Every lounge needs a couch!  Maybe you call it a SO-FA.  Anyway, keep the duplex in the men's corner over there or whatever you're talkin and let's meet up in the lounge for a smoke and a coke.

No, no. We're a smoke-free building. You have to go to the boiler room for a smoke.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 11:42 AM (Answer #17)

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I just started reading Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon. Like his last book, Mason and Dixon, it's very long but so far it's incredible!

You have more patience than I do. Do you ascribe to the theory that Pynchon is not a real person but a group of writers?

I hadn't heard that theory but just last night I said to my wife "I can't believe that one guy can write this!"

The amount of historical knowledge, vocabulary, and styles used in Pynchon's works is staggering, although I think it would be difficult to write something that's that cohesive and propulsive by committee.

J. D. Salinger was a possibility too. Check out these web sites:

http://www.salinger.org/index.php?title=Legends

http://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2007/02/against_the_day.shtml

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted November 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM (Answer #16)

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I heve been teaching 5th and 6th grade for 5 years and now I'm teaching 4th. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a read aloud? I've been through the Superfudge series and I'm not sure where to go next. Please do not say Harry Potter or Twilight. I need books that I can finish in about 2-3 weeks and are not movies. Thanks.

Take a look at these: The Cay, Maniac Magee, Just Juice, Old Yeller.

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prospero | College Teacher | (Level 2) Adjunct Educator

Posted November 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM (Answer #18)

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I am reading Carlile v. Harbour Homes, Inc., 194 P.3d 280 (2008).

Invigorating.

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pmiranda2857 | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted November 25, 2008 at 3:46 PM (Answer #19)

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Teacher's Lounge, I barely have time to read a newspaper.  I start to read at night, but usually end up falling asleep.  I read literature, 10th and 11th grade, as well as a history/sociology type class that I named Pop Culture, I read to prepare for my classes.  I have a great need to be very prepared with details so in I can make a full and thorough presentation on the material that I am teaching.

Although, I would like to ask for help with discipline.  I work in a small school, it is a mix of mainstream students who failed in mainstream schools, most have rules about failing more than two classes, mixed with some, I believe undiagnosed Special Ed students. 

In conjunction with students who are habitual class cutters from public school.  So our private school for them feels like jail.  We are a great staff of caring and educated teachers.  However, some of the behavior can be challenging.  The usual techniques don't always work, detention, throwing out of class, isolation seat next to teacher's desk, or extra homework. 

I get these challenging looks from some kids whose parents sacrifice financially to send them to our school, they look like they are ready to attack any adult in their line of vision.  Their hostility is difficult to break through.  While for the students it is very amusing.  Inevitably, the student is taken out of the class, but he or she comes back, and I try to deal with this attitude with patience and kindness, it doesn't always work.

ANY IDEAS?

THANKS, PHYLLIS MIRANDA

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pward55 | Middle School Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted November 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM (Answer #20)

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Teacher's Lounge, I barely have time to read a newspaper.  I start to read at night, but usually end up falling asleep.  I read literature, 10th and 11th grade, as well as a history/sociology type class that I named Pop Culture, I read to prepare for my classes.  I have a great need to be very prepared with details so in I can make a full and thorough presentation on the material that I am teaching.

Although, I would like to ask for help with discipline.  I work in a small school, it is a mix of mainstream students who failed in mainstream schools, most have rules about failing more than two classes, mixed with some, I believe undiagnosed Special Ed students. 

In conjunction with students who are habitual class cutters from public school.  So our private school for them feels like jail.  We are a great staff of caring and educated teachers.  However, some of the behavior can be challenging.  The usual techniques don't always work, detention, throwing out of class, isolation seat next to teacher's desk, or extra homework. 

I get these challenging looks from some kids whose parents sacrifice financially to send them to our school, they look like they are ready to attack any adult in their line of vision.  Their hostility is difficult to break through.  While for the students it is very amusing.  Inevitably, the student is taken out of the class, but he or she comes back, and I try to deal with this attitude with patience and kindness, it doesn't always work.

ANY IDEAS?

THANKS, PHYLLIS MIRANDA

Dear Ms. Miranda, I can understand your issues. In our school, we have attempted to make the students become part of the solution by introducing a program called "The Merit System". We focus on students 'good behaviors' and capitalize on that. Teachers all agreed on certain behaviors that they would challenge and issue "demerits" when rules were broken. Students get a copy and homeroom teachers. When students have 5 - their demerits are sent to the office and a more formal referral is written and parents called in for conference. They get to "see" the written behaviors that are problematic. When students do well and demerits are limited to no more than 10 for the term (9 weeks), they get rewards (pizza party, basketball game or tickets, field trips, dance, etc) They also get invited to become a member of the "Comet Club" (our school's mascot). Club members get special treatments including first in line, free tickets, early dismissal, no homework passes (depending on the teacher).  We have found this method is working. All teachers and students have bought into it and our disciplinary issues are down by 40%. We are an arts magnet school and never had really bad problems, but the students are more aware of their actions and how disruptive they can be. We have begun to 'teach' them 'how' to behave. This has increased their good behavior and they 'tell their friends'. It's a great program.

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mleafe | Middle School Teacher | (Level 1) Adjunct Educator

Posted November 28, 2008 at 4:05 PM (Answer #21)

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I second that! What's everybody reading these days? One of my students is dying for me to read the Ranger's Apprentice series. He is into computer gaming and knows that I love most things medieval and that I play some of the games he plays. So he checked out the book from the library for me. It's pretty interesting but is definitely for adolescents. I'm also trying to read Twilight. I just can't get into it.

 I have really been making an effort to keep up with children's lit.  Recently, my 6th grader niece has been reading the "Twilight" series, but I currently do not recommend it to my 6th grade students because of mature content.  I think kids will read it anyway, especially when the content may be "older" than they are.  That is typical for children in this age range.  I do not encourage or discourage it. 

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lisbarbre | High School Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted November 29, 2008 at 7:50 AM (Answer #22)

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Number 8 that was pretty funny.  But you're kinda hatin' on the Lounge.  Every lounge needs a couch!  Maybe you call it a SO-FA.  Anyway, keep the duplex in the men's corner over there or whatever you're talkin and let's meet up in the lounge for a smoke and a coke.

I've been known to take a snooze on the lounge couch during the day. Makes everyone jealous that I have enough done that I can nap.

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lisbarbre | High School Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted November 29, 2008 at 7:53 AM (Answer #24)

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Teacher's Lounge, I barely have time to read a newspaper.  I start to read at night, but usually end up falling asleep.  I read literature, 10th and 11th grade, as well as a history/sociology type class that I named Pop Culture, I read to prepare for my classes.  I have a great need to be very prepared with details so in I can make a full and thorough presentation on the material that I am teaching.

Although, I would like to ask for help with discipline.  I work in a small school, it is a mix of mainstream students who failed in mainstream schools, most have rules about failing more than two classes, mixed with some, I believe undiagnosed Special Ed students. 

In conjunction with students who are habitual class cutters from public school.  So our private school for them feels like jail.  We are a great staff of caring and educated teachers.  However, some of the behavior can be challenging.  The usual techniques don't always work, detention, throwing out of class, isolation seat next to teacher's desk, or extra homework. 

I get these challenging looks from some kids whose parents sacrifice financially to send them to our school, they look like they are ready to attack any adult in their line of vision.  Their hostility is difficult to break through.  While for the students it is very amusing.  Inevitably, the student is taken out of the class, but he or she comes back, and I try to deal with this attitude with patience and kindness, it doesn't always work.

ANY IDEAS?

THANKS, PHYLLIS MIRANDA

Unless a student gets physically violent with me, I never throw a student out of class. That is what they want. I also don't give work as punishment. That makes learning equal to punishment. I love giving personal detentions. I have to be at school at 6:30 to get ready for the 7:20 bell. For personals, I require them to arrive at 6:45 and do fun stuff like scrape the gum from under the desks or clean boards. I use the time together to get to know them and try to make a connection. I also put them to work in class. With the overwhelming amount of grading, I have my upperclass honors students help me with the underclassmen's papers. I also show my weaknesses, and ask for help. If I am having a bad day or in a bad mood, I let them know. By showing my humanity, they feel more of a connection.

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lisbarbre | High School Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted November 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM (Answer #23)

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I heve been teaching 5th and 6th grade for 5 years and now I'm teaching 4th. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a read aloud? I've been through the Superfudge series and I'm not sure where to go next. Please do not say Harry Potter or Twilight. I need books that I can finish in about 2-3 weeks and are not movies. Thanks.

I think the only book I remember my 4th grade teacher reading to us was Where the Red Fern Grows. I can't remember ever being so enthralled. It's a bit heartbreaking as I recall.

I think I read The Westing Game in 4th grade and loved it.

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tpisano | Middle School Teacher | (Level 2) Assistant Educator

Posted December 3, 2008 at 6:26 PM (Answer #25)

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I barely have time to read anything once the school year begins, but I did read the entire Twilight series in August. So many of my students are loving it. I agree that the quality isn't the best, but I am also glad that they are reading something. I read them because I think it is so important to know about the books your students are reading whenever possible. I enjoyed them. I thought they were cute, fun reads and they reminded me of being a teenager myself.

Now, I am re-reading Journey to the Center of the Earth by Jules Verne. I am enjoying it even more the second time around.

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engtchr5 | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Associate Educator

Posted December 4, 2008 at 10:43 AM (Answer #26)

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Here's a brief prediction about the Twilight series: Like Harry Potter, this temporary craze will also pass. Kids will devour it until it becomes unfashionable or obsolete, and then trade it out for some new novel that seems mildly rebellious.

I'm not a big fan of the series, mostly because of the werewolf-vampire factor. It mostly boils down to my own personal tastes, and I wouldn't discourage kids from reading it, but I'd probably recommend something a little more beneficial for their fluency. 

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Posted December 5, 2008 at 8:47 AM (Answer #27)

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If you need something fun for the kids that's an easy read try... Aliens Ate My Homework by Bruce Coville

From Publishers Weekly
This zany caper showcases Coville's ( My Teacher Is an Alien ) ability to make the unbelievable close to credible. The young hero, down-to-earth Rod Allbright, doesn't quite believe his eyes when a small blue spaceship flies through his bedroom window and lands in a vat of papier-mache he is using for a science project. Within minutes the startled boy meets the spaceship's curious crew, and is recruited to become an integral player in their mission to apprehend an alien criminal whose specialty is cruelty. As it turns out, Rod knows too well how cruel this culprit can be, as he has been posing as the bullying Billy Becker, Rod's archenemy at school. After several surprises and funny moments (as Billy turns in his math assignment, he is horrified to see that one of the aliens hiding in his desk has chewed on it so that it resembles a lace doily), the plot ends with Billy (literally) getting his comeuppance, as the aliens carry him off to a faraway planet. Coville's typically high-spirited entertainment will appeal equally to girls and boys. Ages 8-12.

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Posted December 8, 2008 at 1:11 PM (Answer #29)

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The Teacher's Lounge

Always wanted to have access to the teacher's lounge.  Do we have a coke machine and a couch in here or what.

Call me anti-social, but I usually just graze through the lounge, check my mail, and get out.  I really can't stand small talk and hearing other teachers belittling students that I really like.

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jennifer-taubenheim | Middle School Teacher | (Level 2) Assistant Educator

Posted December 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM (Answer #30)

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The Teacher's Lounge

Always wanted to have access to the teacher's lounge.  Do we have a coke machine and a couch in here or what.

Call me anti-social, but I usually just graze through the lounge, check my mail, and get out.  I really can't stand small talk and hearing other teachers belittling students that I really like.

I am right with you on that. There is often way too much negativity in the teachers lounge. I think this is unhealty for a couple of reasons. First of all, what we are focusing on is what we are going to see. Second, there are teachers who complain about a kid, get validation from others that yes, this is a rotten kid, and then stop really trying to help them because everyone else agrees that the kid is just rotten. It seems to me to be a bit of a cop-out. Plus I am just way too busy most days to spend much time in the teacher's lounge anyway.

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pward55 | Middle School Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted December 10, 2008 at 7:07 AM (Answer #31)

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In an effort to remain positive in our school overall, the Teachers' BreakRoom has signs posted on the tables - "This is a Positive Table...sit with pleasure".  I placed them there myself.  The teacher's area is usually a place where we can break free and say how we feel, but we try to ensure that our conversations are positive. If we do have a complaint about a student, we try to combine our issues to determine if the behavior is the same and what POSITIVE measures can be used to direct the student.  Our campus police officer eats with us, as well as some of the office staff.  We have a combination of people who offer suggestions and make small talk.  Most of us are saved Believers who follow the Gospel, and that makes a big difference!  There are also positive quotes around the walls as well as posters, pictures and other representations of positivity.   We try very hard to keep our conversations about students positive, or to a minimum.  Afterall, this is our time together and we talk about our families, our health and how to stay healthy, lesson plans, standards and anything else that comes to mind.  The idea is to try and remain positive - it's not a place where we air our displeasures about the students.  That does not reflect the best practice of a teacher or representative of our school. 

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mleafe | Middle School Teacher | (Level 1) Adjunct Educator

Posted December 16, 2008 at 8:12 AM (Answer #32)

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Yes, as teachers, we use the lunch room as our quick way of shoving food down our throats and crabbing about our day.  We are overworked and underpaid.  We should, however, do ourselves some good mentally instead by talking about positives in our lives or classes.  It is very hard to get caught up in the daily shuffle.

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accessteacher | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

Posted June 26, 2010 at 1:40 PM (Answer #33)

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Rather unprofessionally, the teachers' lounge is also a place to off-load and complain about annoying students! I am reading My Name is Asher Lev at the moment, which I am really enjoying greatly - all about the struggle to be an artist and defining yourself by your talent.

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