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Posted May 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM via web

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Should man rule over women for women’s own good?

Should man rule over women for women’s own good?

 

 

Scriptures, and other myth’s, say that God determined that men should rule over women. This gives form, --- in a demographic sense, ---- to our common and society, and says that our demographic pyramid should have a hierarchical shape and or form. This initiates tension and has God demonizing woman, as well as any notion of female equality with man.

 

His motive must be for the good of women. Somehow!

After all, sanctity of the family is one of the main points of morality.

 

God was arguably right for his time. Think in the barbaric way. Below the belt. Thank God that time is almost past. Women in our modern world do not need man’s dubious ape like help. I hope you agree. Be honest now with yourself be you male or female.

 

Men have dominated women long enough I think. To give them equality would be justice.

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rrteacher | College Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted May 24, 2012 at 10:42 PM (Answer #2)

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Surely the argument could be made without characterizing men as "ape-like." I agree with your basic point, however. Clearly gender equality is an essential part of a modern society. While there are still many vestiges of a patriarchal past, I do think women's equality is closer at hand than ever before. But there are still barriers to be overcome, and the number of people who hold very "traditional" views about gender roles may be surprising to some. 

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pohnpei397 | College Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

Posted May 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM (Answer #3)

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This is something of a straw man in any Western country at least.  The idea that men rule over women at all is pretty much out of date.  Hardly anyone would argue today that men deserve to rule over women in the way you suggest.  Perhaps this would have been more of a subject of controversy 40 years ago, but today there are very few people who would seriously take the position that men should dominate women.

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litteacher8 | Middle School Teacher | (Level 1) Distinguished Educator

Posted May 25, 2012 at 12:45 AM (Answer #4)

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Of course men should not rule over women.  Men and women should be partners.  There is a certain amount of equality that should occur, but most of it is give and take.  You have to learn to accept the strengths of each gender and let the genders work together on equal terms.

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Posted May 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM (Answer #6)

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Surely the argument could be made without characterizing men as "ape-like." I agree with your basic point, however. Clearly gender equality is an essential part of a modern society. While there are still many vestiges of a patriarchal past, I do think women's equality is closer at hand than ever before. But there are still barriers to be overcome, and the number of people who hold very "traditional" views about gender roles may be surprising to some. 

The level of male dominance and chauvinism does not surprise me at all.

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DL

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greatest-i-am

Posted May 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM (Answer #7)

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This is something of a straw man in any Western country at least.  The idea that men rule over women at all is pretty much out of date.  Hardly anyone would argue today that men deserve to rule over women in the way you suggest.  Perhaps this would have been more of a subject of controversy 40 years ago, but today there are very few people who would seriously take the position that men should dominate women.

Pohnpei

To those men who do not want to face reality, it may be a straw man.

Ask a woman.

I guess you have missed where men are denying women equality.

If you think women have it then you are part of the problem.

Regards

DL

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Posted May 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM (Answer #8)

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In reply to #4: litteacher8 Nice rhetoric but useless to women who are kept somewhere below men. Regards DL
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catd1115 | Middle School Teacher | (Level 3) Assistant Educator

Posted May 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM (Answer #9)

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Of course men and women should be equal in society. That does not mean they are or that they have always been.

For this topic you really have to consider so many factors: women in the US have equal rights under the law, but that doesn't mean that every woman in America has equality. Laws are a great start but they can't change attitudes.

As for your references to God: I think you need to consider the difference between religious dogma and the rules of religion made by man, and what God "says". Each of us believes different things about our creator. The reason religion can be so divisive is that there is no proof either way. Scriptures and other religious writings, were written by the hand of a man. Whether you believe that there was divine intervention or not is a matter of personal belief. No one can say that God says women are inferior. You can believe that, but you have no proof.

Additionally we have to consider social constructs and how they have changed and continue to change over time. Matriarchal societies are not nonexistant and often in male dominated societies woman find alternative ways of exerting power. Women in China had no political power for centuries but their writings and art, and their influence within the home has had huge affects on Chinese Society. Look at the salons in Europe during the Renaissance and Enlightenment period. Women almost always ran these and the most prominent political, scientific, artistic and other ideas of the time grew in the parlors of these women, most of whom were still politically disenfranchised. In modern America the increase in single parent households means that there are whole families and kin units and communities being run by mothers and grandmothers and aunts.

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mwalter822 | Teacher | (Level 2) Educator

Posted May 26, 2012 at 10:33 PM (Answer #10)

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Men and women should be equal. That doesn't mean they are the same. They should have the same access to economic, professional, and political power. But again, that doesn't mean they are the same. It is difficult to accept differences when we can see only through our own eyes.

It's very easy to have a relationship in which one party dominates the other. Sharing power equitably, however, is a challenge.

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Posted June 9, 2012 at 2:36 AM (Answer #13)

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Men and women should be equal. That doesn't mean they are the same. They should have the same access to economic, professional, and political power. But again, that doesn't mean they are the same. It is difficult to accept differences when we can see only through our own eyes.

It's very easy to have a relationship in which one party dominates the other. Sharing power equitably, however, is a challenge.

Who wants to share power with women?

Not me.

Let me give an analogy.

If I am on a sinking ship with women and children about, I rule and they get the lifeboats. If a woman is beside me and disagrees, she will get into that lifeboat with her children like it or not.

Man, if he is to rule, must put duty and honor first along with children and women. 

Your sharing rulership puts men in the lifeboats instead of the women and children.

Regards

DL

 

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