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erum-iram | Student, Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted January 23, 2012 at 4:19 AM via web

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can we discuss the imagery in this poem?

 

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kiwi | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Educator

Posted January 23, 2012 at 5:19 AM (Answer #2)

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I would love to help. Please specify the poem or poems you would like to be discussed.

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erum-iram | Student , Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted January 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM (Answer #3)

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I would love to help. Please specify the poem or poems you would like to be discussed.

Thankyou... poems are 'Forget not yet' and What should i say'... i need detailed explanation.

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vangoghfan | College Teacher | (Level 2) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 23, 2012 at 1:15 PM (Answer #5)

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Sir Thomas Wyatt's poem "Forget not yet" is a work in the style of Francesco Petrarca, the great Italian poet who wrote hundreds of poems about a desperate, obsessive male seeking to win the love of a virtuous woman who does not return his affection.  The imagery of Wyatt's poem is "Petrarchan" in a number of ways, including the following:

* Its claim that the speaker's affection is true affection (line 2).

* Its reference to the "great travail" or great labor the speaker has spent in trying to win the lady's affection (line 3).

* The references to his "suit" (wooing) and "service" in trying to win the lady (line 7).

* The (probably false) accusation that the lady has been "cruel" and "scornful" in rejecting the suitor's attentions (line 10).

* The self-pitying reference to the speaker's own "painful patience" in waiting for the lady to return his affections (11).

* The claim that the speaker means the lady no harm (line 15).

* The claim that the speaker has shown "steadfast faith" in offering his affections to the lady (19).

One way to read this poem is as a piece of ironic, subtle mockery of the desperate male speaker. In reading Petrarchan poetry, it is often wise not to take the speaker nearly as seriously as the speaker takes himself.

 

 

 

 

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kiwi | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Educator

Posted January 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM (Answer #6)

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'What Should I Say' is a song using seven lines per verse (a sestet) and has a rhyme scheme of ababbcc. As many of the verses of the time, the narrator laments the betrayal at the hands of his lover. Many of Wyatt's pieces can be seen as an observation of the deception and falsity of political as well as social relationships in the court of King Henry VIII. There is a negative used by the narratorr at the end of each verse signifying his rejection of the poor treatment he has received.

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erum-iram | Student , Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted January 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM (Answer #7)

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but sort of imagery is used?? like in some of wyatt's poem imagery of 'deer' is used.. what would you say about it???

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K.P.L. Hardison | College Teacher | eNotes Employee

Posted January 24, 2012 at 11:53 AM (Answer #9)

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Imagery is the effect of sensory elements that create feelings, perceptions, or mental images as you read. There may be imagery of sight (visual), sound (auditory), touch or feel (tactile), smell (olfactory), taste (gustation). Some also include mental perceptions such as cowering or anticipation or elation as elements of imagery. In Wyatt's poem, "Forget not yet," the imagery emphasizes tactile sensation--sensation of feeling.

Wyatt's poetic persona expresses "tired intent," a physical feeling that personifies a mental or psychological aim or purpose ("intent"); "travail," which is physical pain, is also paradoxically expressed--and personified--as being gladly expended ("spent"); "weary life," is again tactile (physical feeling) and with personification; "great assays," which is great effort and certainly physical, is therefore also tactile; "painful patience," again, tactile personification of a mental/personality trait that is in "denays," a Middle English expression of something being denied: i.e., painful patience denied. Wyatt's imagery in this poem is tactile and is often united with personified mental or personality traits.

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litteacher8 | Middle School Teacher | (Level 1) Distinguished Educator

Posted February 11, 2012 at 12:12 PM (Answer #10)

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Imagery in a poem is the use of words to create images. For example, the poet may use sensory details to describe how things look, taste, and smell. Figurative language is used to paint a more extensive mental picture, comparing one thing to something else.
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juleeaziz | Student , Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted February 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM (Answer #11)

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that's useful .. 

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