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Did the Holocaust really happen?Did the Holocaust really happen?

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w3moneyw3 | Student, Undergraduate | eNoter

Posted January 20, 2010 at 7:50 AM via web

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Did the Holocaust really happen?

Did the Holocaust really happen?

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pohnpei397 | College Teacher | (Level 3) Distinguished Educator

Posted January 20, 2010 at 8:01 AM (Answer #2)

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Of course the Holocaust really happened.  No serious historians doubt that it did.

There is so much evidence from so many sources that prove without any doubt that the Holocaust happened.

We have the accounts of people who were in the camps, who had loved ones killed.  We have accounts from people who put the victims in the camps.  These are accounts from diaries, letters, and testimony by Germans who were in some way connected to the Holocaust.

We have records kept by the Nazi government itself.  We have testimony from the Allied soldiers who were there when the camps were liberated.

The weight of testimony is so great that there is no room to doubt that the Holocaust happened.

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krishna-agrawala | College Teacher | Valedictorian

Posted January 20, 2010 at 8:25 AM (Answer #3)

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I am not surprised to see that a young student in the year 2010, finds it difficult to believe that a horrible thing like holocaust actually occurred just about 60 or 70 years back. Yes, the holocaust occurred, its horrors were much beyond the imagination of a normal human being living a normal life 2010. For an unaccomplished writer like me me it is not possible to capture in words even a tiny fraction of that heinous crime. All that I can do here is to present some data related to the holocaust.

Holocaust was mass murders of Jews by Nazis from 1938 till end of the Wold War II in 1945. During this period nearly six million Jews, accounting for more than two third Jew population of Europe were killed.

Under the leadership of Adolf Hitler Nazis, captured Jews and sent them to concentration camps, destroyed their synagogue, looted and confiscated their property, made them work to death in factories, and mass murdered them in gas chambers. Also doctors performed cruel experiments on many of the Jews in concentration camps.

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mkcapen1 | Middle School Teacher | Valedictorian

Posted January 20, 2010 at 8:33 AM (Answer #4)

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My parents have served as living proof of the Holocaust.  Both of my parents were living in Germany at the time of the Holocaust.  They were German born citizens and Jewish.  Neither one knew each other at the time.  My mother's parents went into hiding after my grandfather’s mother was brutally murdered by the Nazis. My grandfather was caught and spent two years in Buchenwald concentration camp.  I spent my childhood running my fingers over the number he had tattooed in his arm.  My mother and grandmother were hid by trustworthy Germans who did not believe they could live with themselves if they had stood by and done nothing.

My father was a teenager in several camps in Poland.  He too had the number tattooed on his arm as well as two bullet holes where a Nazi had shot him while playing a game with another soldier.  A Jewish doctor in their bunk had removed the bullets and packed them with material from his clothing.  The only antiseptic available was given to the doctor by a German prison guard who snuck him a bottle of vodka.

I spent my life watching my mother and family still suffer from the leftover nightmares.  They had a network of friends who were also survivors.  They would mourn their families that died.  Many of the women had lost husbands and children.  I grew up with the innate sadness as if I too had lived through the Holocaust. Relics of my families past including their yellow stars are now part of the Holocaust Museum.  I still have held onto the papers that were forged that helped to save my mother and grandmother.  My father's parents and siblings died in camps.

 

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Michelle Ossa | College Teacher | (Level 3) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 20, 2010 at 11:14 AM (Answer #5)

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Maybe what is prompting your question is both what one of the editors said about being the year 2010 and it being such an unimaginable event, but also the fact that so many people are now cooking up all sorts of conspiracy theories about it never happening.

It did happen, and the evidence is quite concrete through pictures, journals, memoirs, newspaper clippings, footage, and what's more: A major world war. Now, the groups that are questioning ALL this evidence are just following the current trend of "flipping facts". To some, flipping facts s a way to question accepted facts and bring up a different possibility. That, however, is a current trend that usually happens in just about every generation. It is called the "Holocaust Denial Propaganda".

Click on the link to the Jewish Virtual Library so you can see more examples of this.

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jseligmann | High School Teacher | (Level 2) Associate Educator

Posted January 20, 2010 at 12:22 PM (Answer #6)

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The Holocaust is a historical and personal fact. If it didn't really happen, where are all of my wife's Polish relatives? Where are her grandparents, her aunts and uncles and cousins? We went to Poland to find any trace of them, and all we found was deportation records to concentration camps.

If the Holocaust didn't happen where are all my German relatives? My father and part of his family came to the United States just after World War One. When Hitler began rounding up Jews in Europe, the family tried to get the twenty or so remaining relatives out. It was too late; all trace of them had disappeared.

w3money3, do you have any relatives who lived back in the 1930s and 40s? Do you know where they are? Can you find them if you really tried? If any of them have died, do you know where their graves are? Can you visit them and put flowers on their headstones?

Those of us who have lost large portions of our families to the Holocaust have no place to go but the few concentration camps that are still standing as a stark and harrowing witness to the horrors of the past. I've been to Auschwitz in Poland and saw the mounds of old eyeglasses that were taken from the victims of the Holocaust before they were gassed and burned. Which pair of wire-rimmed was my great grandmother's? There is no way to know because any knowledge or evidence of her existence went up into the air as smoke.

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scarletpimpernel | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 20, 2010 at 5:53 PM (Answer #7)

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If the Holocaust didn't happen, then the Germans surely went to a lot of trouble to make themselves look incredibly bad.  I've to Dachau concentration camp near Munich and walked around the solemn grounds there.  What you might ask someone who doubts the history of the Holocaust is how he or she would explain Germany opening up the concentration camps to visitors from all around the world.  What purpose would it serve them to make the Nazis appear to be so evil?

The concept that the Holocaust did not happen is promoted by the same people who believe that 9/11 was a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy--in other words one created by anti-Semitic, racist humans.

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drmonica | (Level 2) Associate Educator

Posted January 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM (Answer #8)

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I can understand the incredulity of a contemporary young person in examining the Holocaust and attempting to "wrap your head around" such an evil, monstrous, mass murder. In this age of movies, video games, and internet hoaxes, it is to be expected that young people are skeptical of much of what they see. Nonetheless, there is no doubt that this event transpired. There is plenty of documentary evidence to prove it.

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hannahshychuk | College Teacher | (Level 2) Adjunct Educator

Posted January 21, 2010 at 5:36 AM (Answer #9)

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My initial response to this question is simply to say yes, the Holocaust happened, as much as the 7 Years War or the Crimean War or any bit of war history.

As I am sure you know, and has been mentioned here already, there are a vocal group of "holocaust deniers," who favor an "alternative" reading of history in order to support their agenda. They have taken the idea that history is a narrative, a story, if you will, to perverse extremes.

If you really find yourself doubting whether the Holocaust occcured, attempt to suspend the ideological ramifications of it having ocurred/ having not occured. Begin doing research into the things my colleagues have mentioned above and form your own conclusion.

Hint: unfortunately, the Holocaust HAPPENED.

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ask996 | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Senior Educator

Posted January 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM (Answer #10)

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There is no doubt that one of the most horrific crimes perpetrated upon mankind took place. Let's say for the sake of argument that governments engage in conspiracies against other governments to destroy them. (And yes, some say the holocaust was invented as a conspiracy against Germany.) Were the pictures of millions of corpses dumped in mass graves a hoax. Were the pictures of skeletal people peering out of concentration camp fences a hoax. Were the survivor tales of family members being thrown into incinerators a hoax? Were the brave recountings of the abominable crimes as told by Corie ten Boom, Elie Wiesel, or Anne Franks diary a hoax. Are the tatoos on the arms of those fortunate enough to survive and doomed to never forget a hoax. Of course the holocaust happened. Don't ever doubt that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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amy-lepore | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM (Answer #11)

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Why would you think it didn't?  There are very few things that have been concocted and made up that have so many different and reliable sources to back it up.  The Holocaust has survivors (though they are growing older and dying daily) who are eye-witnesses to the atrocities the Nazis committed against humanity.  There are documents and photos taken by the soldiers themselves which were rescued before they could be destroyed by the Nazis in their panic to cover up what they knew was wrong.  There are documentaries and video taken by the allied forces who discovered the concentration camps toward the end of the war.  There are diaries, letters, and drawings left behind by people who were there.  Such a mass of evidence for the existence of the Holocaust from so many different people in so many different countries and locations within countries can't possibly be made up.

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matt04404 | Student, Grade 9 | eNotes Newbie

Posted January 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM (Answer #12)

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Are you kidding me you can not be this stupid. YES!!!! the Holocaust really did happen!

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Susan Hurn | College Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted January 27, 2010 at 10:33 PM (Answer #13)

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Of course the Holocaust happened. People generally don't like to think about it because it was so monstrously evil and talking about it, such as in this discussion, makes any compassionate human being feel incredibly sad. It is impossible to understand fully the suffering of the innocent, and I still find it impossible to understand the degree of human depravity that conceived and executed the Holocaust.

Those Holocaust deniers who know better are truly despicable, and those who have bought into this perversion of history out of ignorance, prejudice, and outright hatred are certainly not exempt from moral responsibility. Those victims who died and those who managed to survive must be remembered, and we had better remember what an organized group of sociopaths and psychopaths are capable of when their power is unchecked.

The Holocaust ended in Europe at the end of World War II, but it isn't over for many people, as some of the posts here make clear. The pain persists and must be acknowledged. Human decency demands it. So yes, the Holocaust really happened, and anybody who tells you it did not is nobody you want to know.

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marbar57 | Elementary School Teacher | (Level 3) Associate Educator

Posted January 30, 2010 at 5:27 PM (Answer #14)

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There is no doubt in my mind that the Holocaust really did happen!  There've been too many accounts written by numerous people that corroborate each other and prove that those atrocities were committed. 

To doubt it did would be like wondering if any other event in this world's history happened!  Don't doubt it for a minute!

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hi1954 | Teacher | (Level 1) Associate Educator

Posted May 21, 2010 at 12:54 AM (Answer #16)

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Anyone who actually looks at the evidence of the thousands of soldiers who saw the death camps, the thousands of official reports about the camps, the actual records kept by the SS of the inmates of the camps can't possibly deny with a straight face that the Holocaust was real. The camps killed eleven million people, about six million of whom were Jewish.  The population of Jews in Europe did not increase during the war, as any cursory study of national census records of European countries before and after the war would show.  The camps were repositories for potential enemies of the Reich, which in the radical racist and political ideals of the Nazis meant liberals, those who supported democratic governments, everyone with political ideas different from the Party line, relatives of political and military figures of vanquished countries and of course entire ranges of people such as Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Russians, all Slavic peoples, all peoples of any sort except an idealised non-existent Northern European "ubermensh."  There are mountains of evidence of the gassings, including the Buchenwald Report, a series of engineering and humanitarian (and criminal investigations) reports on each camp and it's subcamps; the evidence is irrefutable.  Many thousands of German citizens were forced to help clean up the camps, as well as thousands of civilian aid workers and the military personnel who liberated and administered the camps after liberation.  There has never been a single person accused of crimes against humanity at the camps who has based their defense on the non-existence of the Holocaust; the defense has always been they were following orders.  When I was growing up almost every male adult I knew had been in the war (and many females), many of whom had seen the camps themselves, including my father.  My mother's German family was entirely wiped out by the war; they were not Jewish, but the von Stauffenberg plot to assasinate Hitler many members of old aristocratic families were sent to the camps, including my relatives.  Their sons had already died fighting for Germany on the Russian Front.  Anybody who denies the reality of the death camps is overlooking the most carefully and completely documented genocide in world history.

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user8379352 | eNotes Newbie

Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:31 PM (Answer #19)

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The Holocaust is a historical and personal fact. If it didn't really happen, where are all of my wife's Polish relatives? Where are her grandparents, her aunts and uncles and cousins? We went to Poland to find any trace of them, and all we found was deportation records to concentration camps.

If the Holocaust didn't happen where are all my German relatives? My father and part of his family came to the United States just after World War One. When Hitler began rounding up Jews in Europe, the family tried to get the twenty or so remaining relatives out. It was too late; all trace of them had disappeared.

w3money3, do you have any relatives who lived back in the 1930s and 40s? Do you know where they are? Can you find them if you really tried? If any of them have died, do you know where their graves are? Can you visit them and put flowers on their headstones?

Those of us who have lost large portions of our families to the Holocaust have no place to go but the few concentration camps that are still standing as a stark and harrowing witness to the horrors of the past. I've been to Auschwitz in Poland and saw the mounds of old eyeglasses that were taken from the victims of the Holocaust before they were gassed and burned. Which pair of wire-rimmed was my great grandmother's? There is no way to know because any knowledge or evidence of her existence went up into the air as smoke.

Where to begin with such unscientific tosh?

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user8379352 | eNotes Newbie

Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM (Answer #20)

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Did the Holocaust really happen?

Did the Holocaust really happen?

For those with an open mind they should find the truth about the holocaust in books like Debating the holocaust. The problem with the holocaust claims are they haven't stood the test of time and scientific advances. No bodies, no excavations, no gas chambers, no six million. Go to codoh.com for an open minded review of the H claims and you will see the truth. As for people who claim they definitely lost relatives due to the holocaust they seem to have forgotten the emigrations prior to the war, the changes in borders in Poland, the deaths from war and the iron curtain. Show me the proof and I might believ it but after ten years of research I am still looking...

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openeyes | College Teacher | eNotes Newbie

Posted May 20, 2010 at 11:21 PM (Answer #15)

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I know from my extensive study of pre world war 2 history that extreme anti semitic attitudes existed in Germany and basically in the western world as a whole.

Jews tend to gravitate towards controlling the financial institutions in theit host countries, which eventually gives them control over all critical infrastructure such as media and publishing.

 

We can see in our own country the predominance of Jews in such professions as banker,publisher, lawyer, director and politician.

This is what happened in pre war Germany, and it's what brought Hitler to power. Germans wanted the Jews to be removed from their society because they saw them as a burden and a demoralizing influence.

Many might even say that the German people were justified in their anger, that their country had been looted by jews after ww1. Hitler was quite right in his assumption that if Germany did not do something their economy would always be at the mercy of the Jews. Many powerful Americans such as Henry Ford and Prescot Bush shared Hitlers views.

Did Nazis murder 6 million Jews? The short answer is no, statistically the Jews were the only European demographic group who's population actually increased during ww2.  (The population of Jews remained relatively stable around 15 million world wide throughout the war, according to their own demographics). There is no technical evidence of a single gassing.

 

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user8379352 | eNotes Newbie

Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM (Answer #17)

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You claim eleven million died in the big H 6m were jews. The eleven million figure was a myth made up decades after the war by Simon Wiesenthal, so as to make us Christians feel a little more involved. Deborah Lipstadt was with him and party to this fakery.

There were no gas chambers ever found or used in Germany based camps such as Buchenwald. There were of course disinfection chambers of a small size but no one has ever claimed they were used to kill humans. Similarly the claims of human skin lampshades and human fat soap have long since disappeared into the wastre bin marked propaganda...

 They died mainly from starvation and disease in the last 6-8 months of the war when the supply chains were severed and food became very very scarce. Typhus was the biggest killer of them all, not gassings, which almost certainly never occurred.

Take the Nuremberg show trials, where rules of evidence were put aside so as to make it impossible for those on trial to conduct any kind of defence. The Russians provided mountains of what we now know to be faked documents etc. No verifiable claims were made nor were they other than accepted etc.

Anyone who is prepared to venture into this subject with an open mind and dig just below the surface will find the truth of what is no doubt the hoax of all time.

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Posted December 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM (Answer #18)

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Did the Holocaust really happen?

Did the Holocaust really happen?

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