Did the Holocaust really happen?  

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Anyone who actually looks at the evidence of the thousands of soldiers who saw the death camps, the thousands of official reports about the camps, the actual records kept by the SS of the inmates of the camps can't possibly deny with a straight face that the Holocaust was real. The camps killed eleven million people, about six million of whom were Jewish.  The population of Jews in Europe did not increase during the war, as any cursory study of national census records of European countries before and after the war would show.  The camps were repositories for potential enemies of the Reich, which in the radical racist and political ideals of the Nazis meant liberals, those who supported democratic governments, everyone with political ideas different from the Party line, relatives of political and military figures of vanquished countries and of course entire ranges of people such as Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Russians, all Slavic peoples, all peoples of any sort except an idealised non-existent Northern European "ubermensh."  There are mountains of evidence of the gassings, including the Buchenwald Report, a series of engineering and humanitarian (and criminal investigations) reports on each camp and it's subcamps; the evidence is irrefutable.  Many thousands of German citizens were forced to help clean up the camps, as well as thousands of civilian aid workers and the military personnel who liberated and administered the camps after liberation.  There has never been a single person accused of crimes against humanity at the camps who has based their defense on the non-existence of the Holocaust; the defense has always been they were following orders.  When I was growing up almost every male adult I knew had been in the war (and many females), many of whom had seen the camps themselves, including my father.  My mother's German family was entirely wiped out by the war; they were not Jewish, but the von Stauffenberg plot to assasinate Hitler many members of old aristocratic families were sent to the camps, including my relatives.  Their sons had already died fighting for Germany on the Russian Front.  Anybody who denies the reality of the death camps is overlooking the most carefully and completely documented genocide in world history.

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There is no doubt in my mind that the Holocaust really did happen!  There've been too many accounts written by numerous people that corroborate each other and prove that those atrocities were committed. 

To doubt it did would be like wondering if any other event in this world's history happened!  Don't doubt it for a minute!

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Of course the Holocaust happened. People generally don't like to think about it because it was so monstrously evil and talking about it, such as in this discussion, makes any compassionate human being feel incredibly sad. It is impossible to understand fully the suffering of the innocent, and I still find it impossible to understand the degree of human depravity that conceived and executed the Holocaust.

Those Holocaust deniers who know better are truly despicable, and those who have bought into this perversion of history out of ignorance, prejudice, and outright hatred are certainly not exempt from moral responsibility. Those victims who died and those who managed to survive must be remembered, and we had better remember what an organized group of sociopaths and psychopaths are capable of when their power is unchecked.

The Holocaust ended in Europe at the end of World War II, but it isn't over for many people, as some of the posts here make clear. The pain persists and must be acknowledged. Human decency demands it. So yes, the Holocaust really happened, and anybody who tells you it did not is nobody you want to know.

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Why would you think it didn't?  There are very few things that have been concocted and made up that have so many different and reliable sources to back it up.  The Holocaust has survivors (though they are growing older and dying daily) who are eye-witnesses to the atrocities the Nazis committed against humanity.  There are documents and photos taken by the soldiers themselves which were rescued before they could be destroyed by the Nazis in their panic to cover up what they knew was wrong.  There are documentaries and video taken by the allied forces who discovered the concentration camps toward the end of the war.  There are diaries, letters, and drawings left behind by people who were there.  Such a mass of evidence for the existence of the Holocaust from so many different people in so many different countries and locations within countries can't possibly be made up.

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There is no doubt that one of the most horrific crimes perpetrated upon mankind took place. Let's say for the sake of argument that governments engage in conspiracies against other governments to destroy them. (And yes, some say the holocaust was invented as a conspiracy against Germany.) Were the pictures of millions of corpses dumped in mass graves a hoax. Were the pictures of skeletal people peering out of concentration camp fences a hoax. Were the survivor tales of family members being thrown into incinerators a hoax? Were the brave recountings of the abominable crimes as told by Corie ten Boom, Elie Wiesel, or Anne Franks diary a hoax. Are the tatoos on the arms of those fortunate enough to survive and doomed to never forget a hoax. Of course the holocaust happened. Don't ever doubt that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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My initial response to this question is simply to say yes, the Holocaust happened, as much as the 7 Years War or the Crimean War or any bit of war history.

As I am sure you know, and has been mentioned here already, there are a vocal group of "holocaust deniers," who favor an "alternative" reading of history in order to support their agenda. They have taken the idea that history is a narrative, a story, if you will, to perverse extremes.

If you really find yourself doubting whether the Holocaust occcured, attempt to suspend the ideological ramifications of it having ocurred/ having not occured. Begin doing research into the things my colleagues have mentioned above and form your own conclusion.

Hint: unfortunately, the Holocaust HAPPENED.

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I can understand the incredulity of a contemporary young person in examining the Holocaust and attempting to "wrap your head around" such an evil, monstrous, mass murder. In this age of movies, video games, and internet hoaxes, it is to be expected that young people are skeptical of much of what they see. Nonetheless, there is no doubt that this event transpired. There is plenty of documentary evidence to prove it.

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If the Holocaust didn't happen, then the Germans surely went to a lot of trouble to make themselves look incredibly bad.  I've to Dachau concentration camp near Munich and walked around the solemn grounds there.  What you might ask someone who doubts the history of the Holocaust is how he or she would explain Germany opening up the concentration camps to visitors from all around the world.  What purpose would it serve them to make the Nazis appear to be so evil?

The concept that the Holocaust did not happen is promoted by the same people who believe that 9/11 was a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy--in other words one created by anti-Semitic, racist humans.

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The Holocaust is a historical and personal fact. If it didn't really happen, where are all of my wife's Polish relatives? Where are her grandparents, her aunts and uncles and cousins? We went to Poland to find any trace of them, and all we found was deportation records to concentration camps.

If the Holocaust didn't happen where are all my German relatives? My father and part of his family came to the United States just after World War One. When Hitler began rounding up Jews in Europe, the family tried to get the twenty or so remaining relatives out. It was too late; all trace of them had disappeared.

w3money3, do you have any relatives who lived back in the 1930s and 40s? Do you know where they are? Can you find them if you really tried? If any of them have died, do you know where their graves are? Can you visit them and put flowers on their headstones?

Those of us who have lost large portions of our families to the Holocaust have no place to go but the few concentration camps that are still standing as a stark and harrowing witness to the horrors of the past. I've been to Auschwitz in Poland and saw the mounds of old eyeglasses that were taken from the victims of the Holocaust before they were gassed and burned. Which pair of wire-rimmed was my great grandmother's? There is no way to know because any knowledge or evidence of her existence went up into the air as smoke.

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Maybe what is prompting your question is both what one of the editors said about being the year 2010 and it being such an unimaginable event, but also the fact that so many people are now cooking up all sorts of conspiracy theories about it never happening.

It did happen, and the evidence is quite concrete through pictures, journals, memoirs, newspaper clippings, footage, and what's more: A major world war. Now, the groups that are questioning ALL this evidence are just following the current trend of "flipping facts". To some, flipping facts s a way to question accepted facts and bring up a different possibility. That, however, is a current trend that usually happens in just about every generation. It is called the "Holocaust Denial Propaganda".

Click on the link to the Jewish Virtual Library so you can see more examples of this.

pohnpei397's profile pic

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Of course the Holocaust really happened.  No serious historians doubt that it did.

There is so much evidence from so many sources that prove without any doubt that the Holocaust happened.

We have the accounts of people who were in the camps, who had loved ones killed.  We have accounts from people who put the victims in the camps.  These are accounts from diaries, letters, and testimony by Germans who were in some way connected to the Holocaust.

We have records kept by the Nazi government itself.  We have testimony from the Allied soldiers who were there when the camps were liberated.

The weight of testimony is so great that there is no room to doubt that the Holocaust happened.

iamkaori's profile picture

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Yes, the Holocaust did actually happen.

After the occurring however, Nazis put in much effort to try to disprove the fact that it happened. They tried to re-brainwash the citizens. However, by then, the news of the Holocaust had spread worldwide. Thousands of people all over the world knew it, there was countless evidence, and there is no way to disprove the Holocaust. Take Anne Frank's Diary and Hannah's Suitcase (I'm assuming that is what it's called) for example. There are also many museums, monuments etc. to honour and remember this tragedy.

To this day, there are still a handful of people in the world that believe the Holocaust to be a myth; however, this tragedy has to be remembered and be known so that history would not repeat itself again.

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Did the Holocaust really happen?

Did the Holocaust really happen?

For those with an open mind they should find the truth about the holocaust in books like Debating the holocaust. The problem with the holocaust claims are they haven't stood the test of time and scientific advances. No bodies, no excavations, no gas chambers, no six million. Go to codoh.com for an open minded review of the H claims and you will see the truth. As for people who claim they definitely lost relatives due to the holocaust they seem to have forgotten the emigrations prior to the war, the changes in borders in Poland, the deaths from war and the iron curtain. Show me the proof and I might believ it but after ten years of research I am still looking...

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The Holocaust is a historical and personal fact. If it didn't really happen, where are all of my wife's Polish relatives? Where are her grandparents, her aunts and uncles and cousins? We went to Poland to find any trace of them, and all we found was deportation records to concentration camps.

If the Holocaust didn't happen where are all my German relatives? My father and part of his family came to the United States just after World War One. When Hitler began rounding up Jews in Europe, the family tried to get the twenty or so remaining relatives out. It was too late; all trace of them had disappeared.

w3money3, do you have any relatives who lived back in the 1930s and 40s? Do you know where they are? Can you find them if you really tried? If any of them have died, do you know where their graves are? Can you visit them and put flowers on their headstones?

Those of us who have lost large portions of our families to the Holocaust have no place to go but the few concentration camps that are still standing as a stark and harrowing witness to the horrors of the past. I've been to Auschwitz in Poland and saw the mounds of old eyeglasses that were taken from the victims of the Holocaust before they were gassed and burned. Which pair of wire-rimmed was my great grandmother's? There is no way to know because any knowledge or evidence of her existence went up into the air as smoke.

Where to begin with such unscientific tosh?

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Are you kidding me you can not be this stupid. YES!!!! the Holocaust really did happen!

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