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Montag arrives at Faber's with the Bible under his arm. Faber asks to see it. He remarks that the government has really changed it in the parlors these days. Jesus Christ has become one of the "family" or TV characters who is sugary sweet and makes hints at commercial products. He then tells Montag that he is a coward.
"I saw the way things were going, a long time back. I said nothing. I'm one of the innocents who could have spoken up and out when no one would listen to the 'guilty', but I did not speak and so became guilty myself" (pg 82)
When the time came to burn the books, no one was objecting, and now it is too late. Faber asks Montag why he has come to see him. Montag replies that
"We have everything we need to be happy, but we aren't happy......The only thing I positively knew was gone was the books....So, I thought the books might help" (pg 82)
Faber calls Montag a hopeless romantic. He tells him that it isn't the books he needs, it's what is in the books. He says you can find the same thing in old phonograph records, old motion pictures, or in old friends. He tells him that basically he is right, but three things are missing. One, the information must have quality.
"...the more truthfully recorded details of life per square inch you can get on a sheet of paper, the more 'literary' you are" (pg 83)
"The good writers touch life often. The mediocre ones run a quick hand over it. The bad ones rape her and leave her for the flies. (pg 83)
He tells Montag the story of Hercules and Antaeus, the giant wrestler, who perished easily if he wasn't rooted firmly to the ground. He says the people today are not rooted to the ground, they are feeding off of superfluous material provided by the government.
Secondly, you need time to think about the information you just learned. Thirdly, you have to have the right to carry out any action that you decide needs to be carried out from what you thought during the first two steps.
He then tells Montag that he doesn't think an old man and a fireman can turn things around at this stage of the game. Montag says that he can get books, and Faber tells him that he is taking a great risk. Montag replies,
"That's the good part of dying; when you've nothing to lose, you run any risk you want." (pg 85)
Faber then tells Montag that the only way he could possibly listen to him is if the fireman structure could be burned. They then hatch a plot to copy books, plant them in firemen's houses, and sow the seeds of suspicion and treason, thus destroying the firemen's structure. Faber tells Montag he was joking, but Montag says it is possible and he is willing to do it. Faber responds with
"The things you're looking for Montag are in the world, but the only way the average chap will ever see ninety-nine per cent of them is in a book." (pg 86)
Faber says they can try, but there are no guarantees. He says that the firemen were not really necessary to stop reading, the public did it themselves. Montag then asks for support in dealing with the Captain and Faber remarks,
"Those who don't build must burn. It's as old as history and juvenile delinquents." (pg 89)
There are more details involved, but my space is limited. The pages numbers are for my edition of the book, they may be different in yours, but they will be close.
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