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Anne BoleynSo I was wondering what everyone else thought about the new movie that came...

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macadoodle | Student, Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted February 9, 2009 at 6:36 PM via web

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Anne Boleyn

So I was wondering what everyone else thought about the new movie that came out a little while ago about Anne Boleyn and her rise to queen.  I love history especially english history about the kings and queens.  I read the book after seeing the movie and it is crazy how much information is cut out of the movies to make them more entertaining, the same goes with the show the tudors, I was very into that show until they made the Anne Boleyn character very cruel and mean.  What do you guys think about how the same character is changed in each different show or movie that they are played in?

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted February 10, 2009 at 6:02 AM (Answer #2)

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I think the real Anne Boleyn was very cruel and mean. She demanded that Henry's daughter Mary not be called princess and took all of her jewels and made her a lady in waiting to her own daughter, Elizabeth. There are stories that when Katherine of Aragon died, Anne threw a party and dressed in a bright yellow gown, instead of the usual black of mourning. There has to be some reason why the people of London hated her so much!

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lynn30k | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Associate Educator

Posted February 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM (Answer #3)

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I think it is hard to tell exactly what went on. The old adage about the victors writing the histories kind of applies here, I suspect. It would be easy to make the people of London love or hate her, depending on what stories they were told...it is not as if they got to talk to her. Henry VIII needed really good reasons to have her executed, and I think it is just very difficult to know the truth.

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amy-lepore | High School Teacher | (Level 1) Educator Emeritus

Posted February 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM (Answer #4)

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Phillippa Gregory has written many books on the Tudors, Anne Boleyn among them.  She has mentioned in her research about Anne and her sister-in-law, Jane Boleyn, that both women were vindictive and ambitious to a fault.  In fact, Jane was jealous of her husband's (George) close relationship with his sisters (Anne and Mary), which is the supposed reason that Jane gave evidence against the two of them and led them to the chopping block.

With all I've read about members of royalty murdering family members and scheming with political powerhouses just to get a crown, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Anne Boleyn was as cruel and mean as she is portrayed.

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macadoodle | Student, Undergraduate | eNotes Newbie

Posted February 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM (Answer #5)

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I agree that it is very hard to decipher what is the truth and what has been made up.  I think that the way all of those people deceived one another for rank and position in court is appalling to me.  I dont think I could ever steal someone else's husband right out from under their nose, well let alone steal someone's husband anyway.  I think there has to be some sort of truth behind the facts because why would someone want to make up such stories about someone just for the fun of it.  In the case of jane and georges marriage you would think that with the siblings having such a close relationship she would want to get in close with them and not try to ruin their bond, even though it turns out that george was gay and that was what angered jane the most, i bet it would be hard to be married to someone who has no interest in you at all, even though she was blessed to get higher ranks simply because she was married to the brother of the kings mistress and future wife.  As I see it she should have just sat back and enjoyed her rise in rank, Guess she just like being mean and vindictive.

I feel sorry for Mary Boleyn in a way because she was truely in love with Henry and knew that he was married and just hoped for his love in return.  She knew that she was just a pawn in her families quest for the throne and she played her part to the best of her abilities.  She did have her own husband and she was not happy about having to pursue the king in the begining.

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linda-allen | High School Teacher | (Level 3) Senior Educator

Posted February 16, 2009 at 7:06 AM (Answer #6)

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I agree that it is very hard to decipher what is the truth and what has been made up.  I think that the way all of those people deceived one another for rank and position in court is appalling to me.  I dont think I could ever steal someone else's husband right out from under their nose, well let alone steal someone's husband anyway.  I think there has to be some sort of truth behind the facts because why would someone want to make up such stories about someone just for the fun of it.  In the case of jane and georges marriage you would think that with the siblings having such a close relationship she would want to get in close with them and not try to ruin their bond, even though it turns out that george was gay and that was what angered jane the most, i bet it would be hard to be married to someone who has no interest in you at all, even though she was blessed to get higher ranks simply because she was married to the brother of the kings mistress and future wife.  As I see it she should have just sat back and enjoyed her rise in rank, Guess she just like being mean and vindictive.

I feel sorry for Mary Boleyn in a way because she was truely in love with Henry and knew that he was married and just hoped for his love in return.  She knew that she was just a pawn in her families quest for the throne and she played her part to the best of her abilities.  She did have her own husband and she was not happy about having to pursue the king in the begining.

I'm afraid to tell you that you're feeling sympathy with a fictional character. The real Mary Boleyn, according to historians, was nothing like the character in the movie. For one thing, she was only 15 when she married William Carey, and they had a daughter together. You don't see that in the movie. Mary also was sent to France to be a lady in waiting to Henry VIII's sister Mary, who had married French king Louis XII. One source I read says that Henry VIII was a guest at Mary's wedding to William Carey and that that's where they met. Also unlike the movie, Mary didn't snatch up baby Elizabeth and take care of her. Instead, Mary and her new husband, William Stafford, stayed away from London and the court.

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tazmin | Student, Grade 9 | eNotes Newbie

Posted April 25, 2009 at 5:08 AM (Answer #7)

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I read the book "The other Boleyn girl" which I found very interesting and also touching. It was supposedly from Anne's sister Mary's point of view, and Anne was made out to be quite cruel and mean.

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tazmin | Student, Grade 9 | eNotes Newbie

Posted April 25, 2009 at 5:10 AM (Answer #8)

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I agree that it is very hard to decipher what is the truth and what has been made up.  I think that the way all of those people deceived one another for rank and position in court is appalling to me.  I dont think I could ever steal someone else's husband right out from under their nose, well let alone steal someone's husband anyway.  I think there has to be some sort of truth behind the facts because why would someone want to make up such stories about someone just for the fun of it.  In the case of jane and georges marriage you would think that with the siblings having such a close relationship she would want to get in close with them and not try to ruin their bond, even though it turns out that george was gay and that was what angered jane the most, i bet it would be hard to be married to someone who has no interest in you at all, even though she was blessed to get higher ranks simply because she was married to the brother of the kings mistress and future wife.  As I see it she should have just sat back and enjoyed her rise in rank, Guess she just like being mean and vindictive.

I feel sorry for Mary Boleyn in a way because she was truely in love with Henry and knew that he was married and just hoped for his love in return.  She knew that she was just a pawn in her families quest for the throne and she played her part to the best of her abilities.  She did have her own husband and she was not happy about having to pursue the king in the begining.

I'm afraid to tell you that you're feeling sympathy with a fictional character. The real Mary Boleyn, according to historians, was nothing like the character in the movie. For one thing, she was only 15 when she married William Carey, and they had a daughter together. You don't see that in the movie. Mary also was sent to France to be a lady in waiting to Henry VIII's sister Mary, who had married French king Louis XII. One source I read says that Henry VIII was a guest at Mary's wedding to William Carey and that that's where they met. Also unlike the movie, Mary didn't snatch up baby Elizabeth and take care of her. Instead, Mary and her new husband, William Stafford, stayed away from London and the court.

The book is in a LOT more detail than the film, the movie doesn't display half of what I read, like the fact that Mary had a daughter by King Henry before a son, etc.

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annnmtn | eNotes Newbie

Posted February 4, 2011 at 3:47 AM (Answer #9)

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Some comments are unkind to Anne Boleyn. My new book "Ann Of 1,000 Lives" has just been published and available on Amazon, iUniverse and other book sellers.  It is the stories of my own past lives and how they relate to my present life, one of which was Anne Boleyn. In the 1980's I channeled a death poem and many other writings from Anne Boleyn.  I ignored them for years but last year as I was going through hand written notes, plus years of regressing clients for their own past lives, I felt this book needed to be written. Most concepts of Anne are wrong. She was never the evil person as represented -she had an agenda related to religion and anti-Catholic. She loved Henry very much.  Most likeness of her are wrong as I am sure Henry destroyed all images.  She was a spirit guide for Elizabeth I.

 

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