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In reply to #20:Actually we do need the Bible. It was made for a purpose. It gives us directions and rules.

65% of the world's population aren't Christians, they seem to survive perfectly well. posted by dancer7.

What does it mean by perfectly well? Like killing people, raping woman, selling drugs,commiting adultery . O yeah society is surving real well.

all my love for Jesus was unrequited. posted by dancer7

thats whats wrong with people today. They want instant gratification. Well im sorry people, you have to be patient. God doesnt always answer your prayers right away for certain reasons. And it sounds to me that you were not truly sincere. I think that you didnt want to fully surrender yourself to God. and make such a big decision because its not the easiest thing to do and people these days are lazy. They dont want to abide by rules. Thaey want to do their own thing. They dont want to give up watching their precious tv shows like desperate house wives or their music which half of it today is about sex, drugs, and violence.

"65% of the world's population aren't Christians, they seem to survive perfectly well." Dancer7 

"What does it mean by perfectly well? Like killing people, raping woman, selling drugs,commiting adultery . O yeah society is surving real well." Bran bran

You've implied that non-christians kill, rape, sell drugs etc and from that, implied that Christians don't. I could now have a LOT of fun highlighting the error in your argument, but I'll go easy on you, cos you're young.

Being Christian gives you absolutely no right to claim moral superiority over the rest of the world. You remember that nice Mr. George W Bush? He's a committed Christian, isn't he? And American Christians voted him into the Whitehouse. He lied to the world so he could start a war that didn't need to happen and resulted in the illegal deaths of possibly half a million people. And then, afterwards, American Christians voted him into the Whitehouse for a second time. So, it seems, American Christians are no better than the other people in the world.

Where was Jesus's love when that war started?

ps Your guess at why I quit the chruch is very judgemental (and wrong). Love of God is different from Church Rules. You are too young to be angry about other people's 'sin' and the evils of the world. Go out and enjoy the beauty of life and the joy of love. Be happy and stop judging. Be good, not angry. Religious anger is a terrible and dangerous thing, avoid it.

In reply to #22: i am not implying that Christians are perfect. The George W. Bush thing is a whole other argument. And i think we needed the war to try to restore order over there, but i do agree he was wrong if he was trying to make this world a peaceful place because there is no way that is going to happen. It even says that in the Bible. Im sorry i judged you, it was wrong of me .I would like to say though as a  Christian it is my job to be a follower of Christ and teach people about the word. I dont think that you are ever too young to be angry about other people's 'sin' and the evils of the world. and its not that im angry, its that i know the consequences of sin. and even if people dont believe in it im 100% sure thatwhat i believe in is right, so im trying to help others out who are not familiar with this kind of stuff. and if im not 100% sure about something i ask my pastor and read the Bible for answers. i know that not everyone is going to make that commitment to the Lord, but im going to try my hardest to let as many people as i can know about Christ and hear His Word.

In reply to #19:

With all due respect, I have a rather large collection of books as old as, or older than, the Bible. I have, for example, several excellent Chinese texts of the Canon of Changes, (Yijing), perhaps the oldest book in Chinese culture and one of the oldest in the world. Its contents are not consistent with the Bible. Why should I believe one old book instead of another?

Because Christians have a record of worldly success? Well, so does China -- it's the oldest continuous civilization in the history of the world, and the source of a multitude of discoveries and inventions that have enriched human culture. It certainly doesn't look like a place that's been deprived of something essential, even though the "good word" didn't reach it for nearly a thousand years after the times of Jesus, and remains a minority and eccentric taste there.

This leads to another point. I read Classical Chinese, and have had to grapple with translation problems many times. It is impossible to completely express the meanings given in one language with the words of another, no matter how hard one tries. And yet, of all the Christians who have told me how important the Bible is, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number who have bothered to learn Hebrew and Greek to read their "sacred" texts in the original languages. I really have to doubt the sincerity of any Christian who can't be bothered to make a relatively modest effort to understand his or her "word of God" better. There are a multitude of excellent resources for anyone who wishes to learn Hebrew and New Testament Greek -- and after all, you only have to learn to read them, not to write or to speak. Why are Christians so reluctant to make this effort if the Bible is so important?

I have been told that Muslims do not really approve of the translation of the Quran into any other language than the Arabic it was written in, since that was the way Allah delivered it to humankind. If that is true, I at least have to give them points for consistency.