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Do you think America is like 1984? NSA wiretapping, spying on American citizens, etc. Are there real parallels or is it too extreme of a comparison? Posted by taco7 on Aug 20, 2007. |
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That's probably an extreme comparison, but I understand where you are coming from: America's more uncomfortably close to being like 1984 than ever before. NSA wiretapping and spying on Americans, as you mentioned, are disconcerting enough. But what has bothered me most is the uncritical acceptance of authority and the party line that has increased sincle 9/11. Posted by kat-attaque on Aug 22, 2007. |
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Yeah, it's too extreme of a comparison, but you have to ask yourself-- what was the precursor to 1984 like? An apathetic democracy unquestioning of its leaders? How did 1984's world get that way? Perhaps America today is closer to... Orwell's 1964 :) Posted by blazedale on Aug 22, 2007. |
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I live in Canada and it is interesting to flip through American major news networks (CNN, Fox...) The coverage, often, does not seem like news rather than part of a bigger machine. Even ominous titles like WAR on TERROR (cue scary music) and OPERATION FREEDOM (cue patriotic music) have their own implicit meanings. I frequently hear the word enemy and the pro-noun them in reference to the enemy. Its not 1984 but does warrant a comparison. Canada is not without its own propaganda machines but if you watch the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) or the BBC, the news seems a little less slanted and sensational. Please feel free to disagree with me, I'd love to read your comments. Posted by tthakkar on Aug 28, 2007. |
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I don't think it's an extreme comparison at all and often times I feel a lot like how Orwell must have felt when he was writing the novel. Obviously his ideas were not hatched from nothingness- he experienced in his time spent in Spain much of what he wrote about in the novel. The country (Spain) and even the world at the time in some places was allowing the government too much power without question, which is why Blair/Orwell joined the Republican side of that war as a soldier to fight against a system he strongly disagreed with. I have traveled the world and it is only in the US it seems that the news comes to us filtered, much like Winston's telescreen announcements. We only get what the government (or whoever the powers that be are) want us to get- we do not get an unbiased view of what happens in the world. News aside, yes there are the wire tappings and spying on Americans, but there is so much more. There are GPS tracking systems that can be tapped anytime in cell phones, cars, etc.Complete and utter free speech is dissipating with all that is "PC" coming into play in the country. Heck, even money (large bills $20 and over) have small microchips embedded in them that the government can use to track. Is the world like 1984- it could be worse and we don't even know it yet, which was the message that Blair was trying to send- question everything! Posted by clane on Nov 14, 2007. |
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In reply to #4: I become more concerned abbout the dummying down of news content. even our local stuff glides throught he world/national news after the latest stuff about the pro sports teams. damping down the language, in essence, is a concern too as "agricultural tresspassers" and "imigrant" words are used for illegal (criminal) aliens. There is a bigger agenda, largely corprate in my opinion. Also, like what results in 1984 there is an eradication of the middle class (goldstiens "the book"). Posted by joeshmo on Nov 17, 2007. |
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America is nowhere near being like the society in 1984, but it's good for us to keep asking that question and checking where we are. Britain is much more intrusive into people's lives, with CCTV cameras set up everywhere and the Echelon spy system. Posted by linda-allen on Jan 31, 2008. |

